Have we become used to or immune to mass shootings?

[Griff]

Originally Posted by sexobon

That's the way rights work. If it doesn't work that way, it's not a right, it's a privilege. If people want this right to be downgraded to a privilege, they can change the Constitution.

I'm actually sympathetic to the idea that amending the Constitution is the "Constitutional" way to go, however, that could be a more ham handed outcome where we lose a right than incremental changes with a dance between Congress and the Judiciary. We already have precedent for limitations.

Henry, what do you consider private? Is a conviction for a violent crime private? Is a history of severe mental illness private? Where do you draw the "drawers" line?

[sexobon]

Originally Posted by Griff

I'm actually sympathetic to the idea that amending the Constitution is the "Constitutional" way to go, however, that could be a more ham handed outcome where we lose a right than incremental changes with a dance between Congress and the Judiciary. We already have precedent for limitations.

Mexico already does that dance via its Constitution and the right wasn't lost.

[henry quirk]

"Henry, what do you consider private?"

Anything and everything that isn't takin' money out of another's pocket, food off their table, or the shingles from the roof over their heads. In other words: If I'm not tangibly mucking around in their business, then 'my' business is none of 'their' business.

And: no, the possibility I 'might' muck around in their business tomorrow is not sufficient to justify them muckin' around in mine today.

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"Is a conviction for a violent crime private?"

No, that is and should be a function of the public record (the trial is paid for with taxes and therefore is not strictly a private matter).

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"Is a history of severe mental illness private?"

Yep, it's private till the afflicted stop mindin' their own business and keepin' their hands to themselves. And even then, that history should remain a private matter if the actions that got the afflicted in hot water are of the sort not demonstrably linked to their illness. Example: a glove box full of unpaid traffic tickets is not sufficient to violate patient/doctor privilege.

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"Where do you draw the "drawers" line?"

Along the edges of my life (which, when not tangibly infringing on yours, is none of your business).

[Griff]

https://www.fbi.gov/file-repository/...-2013.pdf/view

key findings page 7

[sexobon]

While the FBI remains reactive, Florida school districts are going proactive:

[Griff]

PA just passed a bipartisan bill.

[sexobon]

The laxatives must've worked.

[Griff]

I think they must have a bipartisan budget also flowed out.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by Griff

https://www.fbi.gov/file-repository/...-2013.pdf/view

key findings page 7

No real surprises there.

[Griff]

I was going cut and paste details of the Pittsburgh shooting but reading about it is too damn depressing.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...=.75df400414ed

[sexobon]

Try not to think of it as a mass shooting, think of it as a services shooting, Jews don't go to mass.

[glatt]

That's not funny.

[Griff]

Maybe we can use these tragedies to come together rather than fall apart.

[sexobon]

Not likely, too many people lose their sense of humor over them.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Steelers too...