Our God

[tw]

Originally Posted by Gravdigr

I just can't get myself to accept the idea that the entirety of the universe, and everything in it, is all just one big coincidence.

If the dice are thrown enough times, then it was not a coincidence. It was inevitable.

[Clodfobble]

On the scales we're talking about, it's just as likely to say that a more intelligent, more powerful, more overarching life form is also inevitable. Then the only question is, how much more intelligent/powerful/overarching does a life form have to become before it is indistinguishable from what our puny brains would think of as a God?

[Sheldonrs]

I judge them by penis size.

[Happy Monkey]

You ask it what it needs with a starship.

[Gravdigr]

Originally Posted by tw

If the dice are thrown enough times, then it was not a coincidence. It was inevitable.

Coincidence and chance are terribly close to the same thing.

Happenstance.

Six of one, a half-dozen of the other.

An accident.

[Clodfobble]

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

You ask it what it needs with a starship.

But only after you declare that suffering is good for you.

Kirk: Damn it, Bones, you're a doctor. You know that pain and guilt can't be taken away with a wave of a magic wand. They're the things we carry with us, the things that make us who we are. If we lose them, we lose ourselves. I don't want my pain taken away! I need my pain!

[Gravdigr]

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

You didn't read/understand the post that Pico and ME was responding to.

Just in case that's the case, I went back and re-read the post that she quoted in her post. I think I understand it well enough.

But just in case that wasn't the case, I re-read the entire thread.

I stand by everything I've said.

[Happy Monkey]

You called out Pico and ME for reusing Clodfobble's phrase.

[Gravdigr]

Originally Posted by Clodfobble

From God's perspective maybe human suffering and death aren't really as bad as we think they are, because there is more going on than we can understand with our immature little brains.

You and I may not agree on what Clod was saying.

Maybe I misunderstood what Clod was saying.

Maybe you misunderstood what Clod was saying.

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by Clodfobble

But only after you declare that suffering is good for you.

If you take away someone's guilt for something they've actually done, you turn them into a monster, but Kirk would (and did) happily go back in time to prevent something bad from happening, when he could.

[Gravdigr]

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

You called out Pico and ME for reusing Clodfobble's phrase.

Different context.

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by Gravdigr

You and I may not agree on what Clod was saying.

And from any perspective, the same immature brains that are incapable of comprehending God's purposes are the same ones that invented religion.

[Aliantha]

I'm pretty sure Pico was talking about the fact that if there is this superior being who might be called God, our brains (the whole human race) would all be considered immature. Even the brains of the most enlightened among us.

Anyway, this thread is too philosophical for me. I really can't be arsed.

How immature am I?

[sexobon]

Originally Posted by Aliantha

I'm pretty sure Pico was talking ...

Pico can talk? IT'S A MIRACLE!

I'm sure ME is capable of explaining her meaning.

[Aliantha]

Yes, but there still seems to be confusion, and I don't think there should be, so I am speaking for her.

Probably she couldn't be arsed anymore either though. It's all speculation anyway and I think it's unfortunate that this discussion has made at least one member feel bad.

I am trying to be a peacemaker, so stop being a dick.