A Modest Proposal

[Kaliayev]

Originally Posted by DanaC

*smiles* I don't think he's trying to stir shit. I think he's attempting to be diplomatic. Misguided but well-meant I suspect.

I'm not sure how he even came to that conclusion, to be honest.

I mean, really, I could be an arrogant dickwad, if he wanted, but frankly I don't see what's in it for me.

[Kaliayev]

Originally Posted by Sundae Girl

Agreed. Accepting his POV is not that of the Cellar I think his post is reasonable and well-mannered.

I don't agree with everything written, but it's not deliberately inflammatory. At least he didn't say anything about Ali's arse.

I don't even think I've responded to Ali. Not even once. Why would I have any opinion on her?

[Sundae]

You seem a very reasonable chap Kali.
IMO Tiki was too agressive/ tightly wound for this forum.
I know as soon as I dipped my toe into yours that I wouldn't fit.
I would not expect someone from here to defend me if I'd tried to shoehorn my way in.

This joker (Arafelis) aside, we're best not to assume there's a common link between two VERY different forums, surely?

ETA - I was referring to TGGR's rude comments re spotty bots.

[Kaliayev]

Originally Posted by classicman

... sorry girls, but "birds of a feather" and all that

Interesting. Does this mean I can pick a random member of the Cellar, take their personal likes and dislikes and then project them onto everyone who posts here?

You may want to look into logical fallacies. This one is called "guilt by association." Learning what a logical fallacy is and how people use them to try and get others to accept fallacious arguments helps sharpen critical thinking skills no end. And that is a gift no money can buy.

[Sundae]

Our forum moves much more s.l.o.w.l.y. than yours.
And is much less personal.

You can come here and critique every single post you don't like.
Quickly.
Although "we" were denigrated for that on "your" forum.

Or you can assess the overall mood and respond then.

Or you can decide we're a slow bunch of lamers you should never have got involved with.

Or whatever.
I just think it's unlikely you will stick around because you have commitments in a place you feel at home in. And it's sort of a shame. Because we like articulate, intelligent people. Well, I do, anyway, and that's all I can say.

But if you're here to pick, it just doesn't benefit anyone. We could go to PD and do the same thing - but why, when it's not the place we want ot be?

[Shawnee123]

So, where exactly in the UK do you live, K?

If you really live there. Hmmm? Hmmmm?

Seriously, I'm starting to think all these people are here and there the same people, mixed in with other previous people.

A response to this comment would be nice, but never mind, just ignore
me.

I read a comment (at PD) regarding that user (too lazy to look up right now, Applesasselfassel or whatever) and someone at PD was saying he had the same IP as someone from the Cellar who was previously Red Shirt Reilly on PD.

Just puttin' some info out there, my investigation had been cursory, and out of curiosity. I wouldn't know how to find an IP address if it bit me on the leg.

I would, however, be interested in who the big fat liar is. I hate liars. Pet peeve of mine. Sure would want to know WHO ELSE not to trust.

This whole "fake user" crap is really starting to piss me off. I thought I didn't have a life; I pale in comparison.

Mods, UT? Let us in, who are the frucking fakes? Who is the same as who? Who is stirring shit pretending to be someone else.

Jesus fucking Christ in a fucking bucket.

[Kaliayev]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

I blame the Cellar, not PD, for getting all butthurt when we're picked on.

We must face it, we're a bunch of goddamn pussies.

Sometimes I feel a similar way when it comes to PDs reactions to trolls.

[Kaliayev]

Originally Posted by Flint

Don't even mention AudioGalaxy in the same breath as you amateurs. None of you pansies ever got a tattoo of your website.

Oh man. I'm almost at a loss for words as to how to describe that. Makes me want to make an Encyclopedia Dramatica article especially for them.

If they don't already have one, which is entirely likely.

[Shawnee123]

Originally Posted by Shawnee123

So, where exactly in the UK do you live, K?

If you really live there. Hmmm? Hmmmm?

Seriously, I'm starting to think all these people are here and there the same people, mixed in with other previous people.

A response to this comment would be nice, but never mind, just ignore
me.



This whole "fake user" crap is really starting to piss me off. I thought I didn't have a life; I pale in comparison.

Mods, UT? Let us in, who are the frucking fakes? Who is the same as who? Who is stirring shit pretending to be someone else.

Jesus fucking Christ in a fucking bucket.

[Shawnee123]

Originally Posted by Shawnee123

So, where exactly in the UK do you live, K?

If you really live there. Hmmm? Hmmmm?

Seriously, I'm starting to think all these people are here and there the same people, mixed in with other previous people.





This whole "fake user" crap is really starting to piss me off. I thought I didn't have a life; I pale in comparison.

Mods, UT? Let us in, who are the frucking fakes? Who is the same as who? Who is stirring shit pretending to be someone else.

Jesus fucking Christ in a fucking bucket.

[Kaliayev]

Originally Posted by Shawnee123

I read a comment (at PD) regarding that user (too lazy to look up right now, Applesasselfassel or whatever) and someone at PD was saying he had the same IP as someone from the Cellar who was previously Red Shirt Reilly on PD.

Just puttin' some info out there, my investigation had been cursory, and out of curiosity. I wouldn't know how to find an IP address if it bit me on the leg.

I would, however, be interested in who the big fat liar is. I hate liars. Pet peeve of mine. Sure would want to know WHO ELSE not to trust.

Well, the IP was traced back to the same city as a Cellar user who had posted on PD before. Someone jumped to a conclusion. It was a mistake, but an honest one, and I'm sure they know this is the case by now.

Well mods can normally see a user's IP, and specialist sites of varying qualities can trace it back to a general geographic location. Anything more refined would have to come from the ISP.

[Shawnee123]

So, where exactly in the UK do you live, K?

If you really live there. Hmmm? Hmmmm?

Seriously, I'm starting to think all these people are here and there the same people, mixed in with other previous people.

A response to this comment would be nice, but never mind, just ignore
me.


Quote:
I read a comment (at PD) regarding that user (too lazy to look up right now, Applesasselfassel or whatever) and someone at PD was saying he had the same IP as someone from the Cellar who was previously Red Shirt Reilly on PD.

Just puttin' some info out there, my investigation had been cursory, and out of curiosity. I wouldn't know how to find an IP address if it bit me on the leg.

I would, however, be interested in who the big fat liar is. I hate liars. Pet peeve of mine. Sure would want to know WHO ELSE not to trust.

This whole "fake user" crap is really starting to piss me off. I thought I didn't have a life; I pale in comparison.

Mods, UT? Let us in, who are the frucking fakes? Who is the same as who? Who is stirring shit pretending to be someone else.

Jesus fucking Christ in a fucking bucket.

[Kaliayev]

Originally Posted by Sundae Girl

You seem a very reasonable chap Kali.
IMO Tiki was too agressive/ tightly wound for this forum.
I know as soon as I dipped my toe into yours that I wouldn't fit.
I would not expect someone from here to defend me if I'd tried to shoehorn my way in.

This joker (Arafelis) aside, we're best not to assume there's a common link between two VERY different forums, surely?

ETA - I was referring to TGGR's rude comments re spotty bots.

Thank you. Maybe, she is fairly aggressive as a person, but I don't necessarily think that's a bad thing.

Well, Arafelis seems to think our forums are more similar than not...but his judgement doesn't exactly seem to be firm at the moment, does it?

[Kaliayev]

Originally Posted by Sundae Girl

Our forum moves much more s.l.o.w.l.y. than yours.
And is much less personal.

You can come here and critique every single post you don't like.
Quickly.
Although "we" were denigrated for that on "your" forum.

Or you can assess the overall mood and respond then.

Or you can decide we're a slow bunch of lamers you should never have got involved with.

Or whatever.
I just think it's unlikely you will stick around because you have commitments in a place you feel at home in. And it's sort of a shame. Because we like articulate, intelligent people. Well, I do, anyway, and that's all I can say.

But if you're here to pick, it just doesn't benefit anyone. We could go to PD and do the same thing - but why, when it's not the place we want ot be?

Well this is my style of posting. I like to deal with people as individuals, on a one to one basis. It might look like nitpicking, but its a structured way to deal with multiple people, I find.

I have posted here constructively before, but honestly I don't have much time, partly due to my commitments elsewhere and due to work. When I have the time, I pop in and comment on what I find interesting, but that aside...yeah.

[Shawnee123]

OK, then...MODS?

Who is Arafelis, or rather, whose IP address is in the same geographic location as Applesauce?

Does Kalypallywally live in the geographic location of the UK?

Who else here is a liar, by geographic location?

How many Dwellars, by geographic location, are interchangeable with the PDs?

Well, the IP was traced back to the same city as a Cellar user who had posted on PD before. Someone jumped to a conclusion. It was a mistake, but an honest one, and I'm sure they know this is the case by now.

Did they post a correction, or is that just a ploy to scare people?

Really, so many full of shit...let's get some real answers here.

Perhaps the reason we seem like pussies is everyone is pussyfooting around this issue with IP addresses (Oh, excuse me, geographic location.)

Is there some unwritten ethic (Oh NOES, we can't reveal secret troll identities, I mean, geographic locations.)

Balls and honesty...can we get some? :

I'm sick of it, anyone else? Either it's easy to figure out, or it's impossible. Either way, no one can just lay it on the line.