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Old 12-08-2012, 09:30 PM   #166
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Just being oppressed doesn't excuse you from making allies for the cause.
...yes it does! Allies HURT causes, not HELP them.
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Old 12-08-2012, 09:46 PM   #167
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...yes it does! Allies HURT causes, not HELP them.
I see that you're emotionally unstable and no longer an appropriate candidate for "community" intervention. As with others like you who have passed through these forums, I will abstain from further intervention and recommend the same to others (until Ibby warrants a time out vis-à-vis pensive pam).
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Old 12-08-2012, 10:20 PM   #168
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I see that you're emotionally unstable and no longer an appropriate candidate for "community" intervention. As with others like you who have passed through these forums, I will abstain from further intervention and recommend the same to others (until Ibby warrants a time out vis-à-vis pensive pam).
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Other forms of microaggression

Microaggressions can take a number of different forms,[9] for example, questioning the existence of racial-cultural issues, making stereotypic assumptions, and cultural insensitivity.[9][10] Some other types of microaggressions that have been identified[9] include Colorblindness (e.g., "I don't think of you as Black. You are just a normal person"), Denial of personal bias (e.g., "I'm not homophobic; I even have gay friends."), and Minimization of racial-cultural issues (e.g., "Just because you feel alone in this group doesn't mean that there's a racial issue involved."). "Colorblindness" in particular has been associated with higher levels of racism[11] and lower levels of empathy.[12]
Racial Microaggressions
The concept of racial microaggressions is one of the relative new contributions of Social Psychology to the understanding of factors that influence intergroup relations. Commonplace, public experiences or situations such as being stopped for a check-up at an airport, being ignored by a waiter/waitress at a restaurant or being assigned to a particular task by an employer, might seem irrelevant or innocuous situations under most circumstances. However, when such situations are interpreted as being linked to racial differences, they become distinct, and take on a different connotation. As a result, people subjected to them (racial minorities) may experience emotional pain or other negative feelings.[26]
Supporters of the theory argue that racial microaggressions are reported to be common,[13][14][15][16] including among people who think of themselves as being fair and nonracist,[17][18][19] and who have received multicultural training.[20]
According to P.C. Davis (1989), microaggression is enabled because “cognitive habit, history, and culture [has left it] unable to hear the range of relevant voices and grapple with what reasonably might be said in the voice of discrimination’s victims”.[21]
Allyship in a nutshell.
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Old 12-08-2012, 10:26 PM   #169
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... and it's making you persona non grata.
That's not happening.
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Old 12-08-2012, 10:27 PM   #170
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Nope, just a misapplication of psychology by a layman in a vain attempt to rationalize untoward behavior. A loser's hand. You've got to know when to fold 'em.
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Old 12-08-2012, 10:30 PM   #171
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That's not happening.
It's already happened with those who have dropped out and no longer support the cellar, fool.
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Old 12-08-2012, 10:34 PM   #172
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It's already happened with those who have dropped out and no longer support the cellar, fool.
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Old 12-08-2012, 10:39 PM   #173
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Smile when you say that boy. Oh, I see that you did. Keep up the good work.
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Old 12-08-2012, 10:52 PM   #174
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basically, sexobon, your argument is that... i'm being oppressive and bad myself by calling out oppressive people, and since i'm doing so belligerently, i'm hurting my cause by alienating potential allies, right?

That's what they've said about every radical social movement ever. and yet social movements don't work but on the backs of their radical wing! No deification of MLK without Malcolm X. No deification of Gandhi without riots and radicals. No whitewashed modern gay rights movement without Stonewall.
I'm stonewall, bitches, every minute of every day. I'm not gay as in happy, i'm queer as in fuck you. I'm actually out there trying to make the lives of ALL my queer brothers and sisters better, not just the white cis male ones, and that means fighting all the intersectionalities of oppression that trans men, trans women, queer MoC, queer WoC, trans MoC, trans WoC, rich queers, poor queers, and every other combination of intersectionality there is.
If you don't like it, you could try not being oppressive, instead of bitching at me for having a problem with it.
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Old 12-08-2012, 11:03 PM   #175
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I'll take that for what it's worth coming from a done nothing heterophobe.

To use an unrelated statement by UT: I like you; but, not that much.

I only say that because I've known people are were so much better at your game than you are.
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Old 12-08-2012, 11:05 PM   #176
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Do you honestly, really think there's a such thing as heterophobia? Really?
When's the last time a straight person suffered for their straightness?
I'll wait.
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Old 12-08-2012, 11:35 PM   #177
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In your paranoid hands, yes indeed, a lot of decent people are suffering. Have you no compassion for them, no tolerance for their transition? Is instant gratification everything to you? You don't relinquish anything by being patient with people in the Cellar. You sacrifice everything by pushing them before they're ready. That's the difference between knowledge and experience. It's something you've failed to recognize. So be it. You failed. Let it be a lesson to others like you. You're beyond redemption.
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Old 12-08-2012, 11:46 PM   #178
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Whose transition to what? Who am I causing to suffer? What am I paranoid about? What have I failed to recognize? I literally have no clue what you mean?
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Old 12-08-2012, 11:56 PM   #179
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I'm sorry that you're an uninformed dolt; but, I'm not sorry about your finger.
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Old 12-09-2012, 12:10 AM   #180
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Smile when you say that boy. Oh, I see that you did. Keep up the good work.
You don't like the dismissive smilie response? It's classic Merc!
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