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Old 02-08-2019, 03:43 AM   #2191
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I told grandpa we were hot stuff...
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Old 02-08-2019, 08:25 AM   #2192
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Things to consider

Pre-1980, the record of how temps went on the entire continent of Antarctica are based on two thermometers, and the ocean numbers are almost guesses. 1980 should be the starting point for graphics like this -- that is when we started accurately measuring the whole thing.

The lower troposphere satellites say this was the 6th warmest year on record. "The record" is since we have been measuring temperature, not all time. It has been warmer on the planet but not recently.
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Old 02-08-2019, 08:33 AM   #2193
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"The record" is since we have been measuring temperature, not all time. It has been warmer on the planet but not recently.
Those temperatures are locked and recorded elsewhere - ie geology. We know the earth has never seen so much temperature increase so quickly - even long before humans existed. No other temperature change comes anywhere near to what we have created in the past 100 years. None.
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Old 02-08-2019, 12:36 PM   #2194
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Meh, temp goes up and down, always has always will.

I don't know that we're causing it, but, we prolly ain't helping.
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Old 02-13-2019, 02:40 AM   #2195
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Was it after 9-11 that fake news stirred people up enough to twist their perception?
The 40, 60, 80 on the left side of the perception chart I put there because the original numbers were so blurry I couldn't read them. I found the same graph done by the PEW and verified they are correct.
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Old 02-13-2019, 08:36 AM   #2196
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Republicans perform better in elections when the citizens are afraid.
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Old 02-13-2019, 02:08 PM   #2197
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But after they build a wall and we're all snug and safe in our beds, then they would do worse in elections. You don't suppose they would fabricate a bogie man do you.
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Old 02-13-2019, 02:12 PM   #2198
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Remember the terror level thing Bush had? LOL.

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Old 02-13-2019, 03:10 PM   #2199
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Everybody likes White men, except Black women. Nobody likes Black men, except for Black women. Nobody like Black women. Everybody likes Asian women, except for Asian men. The only group who likes each other back is White men and Asian women.
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Old 02-13-2019, 06:28 PM   #2200
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What's wrong with a little contrast in your printing, I could barely see that.
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Old 02-14-2019, 01:01 PM   #2201
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♪ ♫You love her♪ ♫
♪ ♫But she loves him♪ ♫
♪ ♫And he loves somebody else♪ ♫
♪ ♫You just can't win♪ ♫

♪ ♫And so it goes♪ ♫
♪ ♫Till the day you die♪ ♫
♪ ♫This thing they call love♪ ♫
♪ ♫It's gonna make you cry♪ ♫

♪ ♫I've had the blues♪ ♫
♪ ♫The reds and the pinks♪ ♫
♪ ♫One thing's for sure♪ ♫

♪ ♫Love stinks♪ ♫


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Old 02-15-2019, 03:11 AM   #2202
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Regular taxes and Rich people taxes... Of course they're only showing the top rate which doesn't apply to most of us.
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Old 02-16-2019, 03:29 AM   #2203
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A peak of $5 Billion a month, some were getting very rich, that's a lot of war bonds...
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Old 02-17-2019, 01:56 PM   #2204
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Yesterday's electricity supply in California by type over the course of the day. See that big green bump during the middle of the day? That's solar. It only woks when the sun shines. The rest of the time, they have to bring the natural gas plants on line and import electricity from neighboring states. Nuclear output doesn't fluctuate at all.
Keep thinking about this a lot. The graph gets more more interesting with other news.

One, I had heard CA was going to close down another nuclear plant; I didn't realize it's the last one in the state, the one creating that black line of constant generation.

That happens in six years; nice work, hippies; hope you know what you're doing.

Two, there is a huge solar facility being constructed in Virginia. It will be the largest solar facility in the eastern US. It will use 6,000 acres, of which 3,500 will be panels, I think.

To build this, they are cutting down trees in an area about 40% the size of Manhattan. That's a lot of forest lost!

The largest solar facility in the east will only be rated at 500MW. I do not understand whether that is during sunlight hours, or an estimated average across time. It is sad that you only get 500MW out of losing that many trees.

For comparison, VA currently has two nuclear plants and one of them is planning an expansion. Currently those plants produce 3568MW of power, they are hoping a future unit will raise that to 5103MW.

After considering all these numbers, it still seems to me like we need another round of nuclear while we wait for a few more rounds of innovation on solar and batteries and conservation. At least, insist that panels go on top of commercial and industrial buildings first.

Or shut down the remaining coal plants and replace with gas, as the interim measure.
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Old 02-18-2019, 01:29 AM   #2205
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I wonder if they include the corporate owned units mounted on homes under contract, in their total output calculations?

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The reason is simple: Homeowners usually pay nothing upfront. A company like Sunrun puts solar panels on your roof, connects them to your home, and claims a tax benefit for owning the system. Going forward, you pay Sunrun to provide the bulk of your electricity needs instead of your utility.

I’d soon learn that the system was tied to the title of the house. It appeared that if we bought Jug’s place, we’d have to assume his lease arrangement with Sunrun. I wasn’t sure how I felt about this as a buyer, but it definitely piqued my curiosity as a journalist. I set out to examine the value proposition carefully.
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