12-13-2012, 06:21 PM | #256 |
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That explains a lot.
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12-13-2012, 06:34 PM | #257 |
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mainly the pot smoking... lol
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12-13-2012, 08:06 PM | #258 | |
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12-13-2012, 10:03 PM | #259 |
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Really??? I've always had this really strange fantasy....... is there any chance you might post a NSFW??
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12-13-2012, 10:26 PM | #260 |
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Someone shit on the coats... I mean I think someone shit on or around the coat area.....
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12-13-2012, 10:40 PM | #261 |
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I think I can now safely say ... that this thread kept reminding me of Dennis the Constitutional Peasant from Monty Python's Holy Grail.
Except he was all "help, help, I'm being repressed."
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12-13-2012, 11:27 PM | #262 |
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Merc - Wtf?
Ok, lets settle this. Merc left because Dana wouldn't put out.
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12-14-2012, 12:14 AM | #263 |
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Sexobon, I never knew you were a funny man.
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12-14-2012, 12:15 AM | #264 |
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Wait, you're telling me that "Wtf?" mean "Want to fuck?"???
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Ali, xoB, for the record, this post has been incubating for a couple days.
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12-14-2012, 01:15 PM | #266 |
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From master debater to master incubator, these are the good old days.
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12-14-2012, 07:12 PM | #267 | |
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know of, understand, show empathy for, and listen to, her elders before she will be able to effectively discuss her issues. She should be tolerant of those who do not tolerate her... etc. I used the word "elders" deliberately because many of the postings have been quite paternalistic, being presented that if she were just more mature, ready, experienced in life, knew how much other have suffered, etc. etc. etc. then she could grasp the wisdom being showered down upon her and she would certainly change her ways. If such assumptions were true, everyone would always agree with me, as I am the eldest Dwellar here; but that certainly is not the case. I think I understand and agree with Ibby's remark that The Cellar has recently not been a "safe" place for her to discuss issues ... especially in this thread... and apparently for a long time now. Is it useful have someone so well respected here say ... "you are equally guilty" and accused of "hypocrisy and contradiction". but imply that some day you will be ready, and I will mold you. Ibby is 21 (not 16, as some seem to believe). I fully agree with so many ideas she publishes here, and it's hard for me to understand and "tolerate" all the antagonism and paternalism. Being young is not a crime, even though some here act as if it is, or use it as an excuse. I believe Ibby is and has been acting very maturely, regardless of her age. Her's is the time to look for the better way, to look for change, and to proselytize. If all this "wisdom" is being shown to Ibby is intended to foster this, maybe people should not try to be quite so helpful, and try some other approach. If people disagree with Ibby's issues, argue them; but don't use intimidation based on age, maturity, level of suffering, or whatever. I just hope this thread does not grind down Ibby's zeal and righteous indignation whenever bigotry and intolerance are thrust upon her. |
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What I DO think is that like most people her age, Ibs is totally absorbed in her own world and own journey, and as I say to my own kids (who are only a few/couple of years younger and tend to have the same mind set at times) that's fine. Get back to me in a few years and let me know if you still feel the same way. The point is, I make my suggestions, and if they're falling on deaf ears, I am forced to acknowledge that whatever the issue is that we're discussing, I'm forced to let them find their own path because they aren't interested in what 'an old fart like me' has to say about it, cause what would I know? I recall being similar to that when I was younger. There are many things my parents tried to advise me on during my youth which I refused to accept advice on which I now wish I had, but that's part of growing up. Coming to realise that sometimes the old farts did and still do know what they're talking about. It's where the saying, 'the more you know, the more you find you don't know' comes from. Kids don't know enough yet to realise how much they don't know. That's ok. That's just the way it is. eta: Please note that I have made only one comment about thinking that Ib and Merc were both guilty of saying bad stuff to each other. With regard to whatever else Ibs has said in this thread, I have tried to explain it from my own personal perspective. I understand that Ibs needs to do things a certain way and that's fine, but I find now, that i have little or no response to those posts simply because I do feel I have some experience in some of these issues, so I don't need to be told how I 'should' feel about them. Ibs could post about them till the cows come home, and if that makes her feel good, then that's ok by me, but as I mentioned earlier in this thread, I really don't see any benefit in being part of the discussion because I have nothing positive to add. I've said the things I felt might have been helpful and now there is not much more I could say, so why keep talking? I'm pretty sure this is how many others here feel too. They're not saying Ibs shouldn't be saying these things. They're simply saying they have nothing helpful to add.
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I still don't get why you have a problem with calling Ibby she though.
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