10/16: Hijack this, fags - Page 2

paxton · 10-18-2001, 08:13 AM

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Originally posted by Undertoad
But in this case it's an AP photo, which means that the chance of it being faked is damn near zero.

You're right. The media never wants to make the military look bad. The media have been the perfect picture of fairness and honesty when it comes to things they don't like.

I served in the military. This wouldn't have been permitted by my superiors, especially if they knew someone would be around with a camera.

Hubris Boy · 10-18-2001, 01:50 PM

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Originally posted by paxton
This wouldn't have been permitted by my superiors

You're absolutely right, Paxton. It's worth at least a field-grade Article 15 if they ever catch the fool who wrote it, possibly even a court-martial for "Conduct Unbecoming" and "Failure to Obey a Direct and Lawful Order".

Despite what many may believe, this sort of thing is not tolerated in today's military.

leif · 10-18-2001, 03:04 PM

By "this sort of thing" so you mean hate messages specifically, or writing on bombs in general?

I've seen several other pictures of messages scrawled on bombs recently. I guess they could all be photoshop work, but I thought they were real.

BrianR · 10-18-2001, 03:22 PM

Yes, that's a word. I invented it and just as soon as the Board of Wordology approves it, I'll get credit and royalties. Right after I die.

Anyway, speaking as our (I think only) active duty member, the US Navy allows messages to be scrawled on bombs and missiles by the ordnancemen since it does not impair the weapons' function and improves morale. This position is a tradition that dates back to WWII and many photographs can be found of blockbuster bombs with messages to the enemy written on them.

I have no information on the other services policies, but it would seem to me that they also allow this since they all do things pretty much the same way.

Brian

Hubris Boy · 10-18-2001, 08:53 PM

My apologies. I was a little vague before. I was referring to the anti-homosexual remark, not the time-honored tradition of scribbling on ordnance.

As far as the "fag" slur goes... the luckless ordnanceman was who wrote it is probably wishing he hadn't. This thing has gotten a lot of press coverage. I would imagine that everybody in his unit is busy covering their asses right now, in anticipation of the inevitable witch hunt.

Somebody's gonna get sucked into the blades for this one. Command guidance for dealing with "hate crimes" is clear, and local commanders are given very little discretion when it comes to dealing with such things. Another career ruined by a momentary lapse of judgement.

juju · 10-18-2001, 11:39 PM

why does the freaking media always have to blow things out of proportion?

Whit · 10-19-2001, 01:23 AM

Simple, because it's far more interesting that way. Get's better ratings.

Chewbaccus · 10-19-2001, 07:23 AM

two words - sweeps week

elSicomoro · 10-19-2001, 07:43 AM

But sweeps is two weeks away...I'm curious to see what they're going to do this year.

10-18-2001, 03:22 PM	#19
BrianR Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 3,338	exqueeze me? Yes, that's a word. I invented it and just as soon as the Board of Wordology approves it, I'll get credit and royalties. Right after I die. Anyway, speaking as our (I think only) active duty member, the US Navy allows messages to be scrawled on bombs and missiles by the ordnancemen since it does not impair the weapons' function and improves morale. This position is a tradition that dates back to WWII and many photographs can be found of blockbuster bombs with messages to the enemy written on them. I have no information on the other services policies, but it would seem to me that they also allow this since they all do things pretty much the same way. Brian

10-19-2001, 01:23 AM	#22
Whit Umm ... yeah. Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Arkansas, USA Posts: 949	Simple, because it's far more interesting that way. Get's better ratings. __________________ A friend will help you move. A true friend will help you move a body.

10-19-2001, 07:23 AM	#23
Chewbaccus Freethinker/booter Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 523	two words - sweeps week __________________ Like the wise man said: Of course, that's just my opinion. I could be wrong.

10-18-2001, 03:04 PM	#18
leif Confounded Conjuror Join Date: May 2001 Location: N. California Posts: 33	By "this sort of thing" so you mean hate messages specifically, or writing on bombs in general? I've seen several other pictures of messages scrawled on bombs recently. I guess they could all be photoshop work, but I thought they were real.

10-18-2001, 08:53 PM	#20
Hubris Boy Keymaster of Gozer Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Patapsco Drainage Basin Posts: 471	My apologies. I was a little vague before. I was referring to the anti-homosexual remark, not the time-honored tradition of scribbling on ordnance. As far as the "fag" slur goes... the luckless ordnanceman was who wrote it is probably wishing he hadn't. This thing has gotten a lot of press coverage. I would imagine that everybody in his unit is busy covering their asses right now, in anticipation of the inevitable witch hunt. Somebody's gonna get sucked into the blades for this one. Command guidance for dealing with "hate crimes" is clear, and local commanders are given very little discretion when it comes to dealing with such things. Another career ruined by a momentary lapse of judgement.

10-18-2001, 11:39 PM	#21
juju no one of consequence Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Arkansas Posts: 2,839	why does the freaking media always have to blow things out of proportion?

10-19-2001, 07:43 AM	#24
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	But sweeps is two weeks away...I'm curious to see what they're going to do this year.

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