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Happy Monkey · 08-15-2018, 08:01 PM

Well, Roark was trying to erase the idea of the building he blew up, because it wasn't completely his. His unadulterated plans still existed on paper, and in his mind, whether he blew up the building or not. He just couldn't bear to have a building exist that incorporated some, but not all, of his plans.

Clodfobble · 08-15-2018, 11:52 PM

It's funny, because even though they seem like opposites, Rand's philosophy churns out the exact same entitlement problems as parents who tell their kids they can be anything they want to be. Rand says work hard for it, while helicopter parents insist inborn talent will take care of everything--but both rely on the lie that "following your dreams" is the only noble path. Sometimes you have to do shit you're overqualified for, and sometimes you find out your dreams aren't what you thought they were, and neither situation makes you a failure.

xoxoxoBruce · 08-16-2018, 10:41 AM

Right, like wanting a toy, car, or job with all your might then being disappointed when you get it.

Mountain Mule · 08-16-2018, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

wait, was... was that a bad thing?

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Originally Posted by Flint

It isn't presented as a bad (or good) thing. It's simply a relevant detail, insomuch as it speaks directly to the crux of her resentment-- the loss of wealth to social upheaval / application of political theories.

What Flint said.

I actually have a fav Ayn Rand quote which is "Check your premises." I find that people at either extreme of the spectrum often have flawed or even completely false premises which they attempt to use when arguing the validity of their stance.

In any discussion the debate can only be useful if both sides agree on the same basic truths or "givens" as it were.

Undertoad · 08-16-2018, 03:34 PM

I was stuck on the word Jewish.

Happy Monkey · 08-16-2018, 05:30 PM

Looks like the significance is complicated.

Flint · 08-17-2018, 01:58 PM

Every corner of our history and civilization is packed full of instances where the significance is complicated.

08-15-2018, 08:01 PM	#31
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	Well, Roark was trying to erase the idea of the building he blew up, because it wasn't completely his. His unadulterated plans still existed on paper, and in his mind, whether he blew up the building or not. He just couldn't bear to have a building exist that incorporated some, but not all, of his plans. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

08-15-2018, 11:52 PM	#32
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	It's funny, because even though they seem like opposites, Rand's philosophy churns out the exact same entitlement problems as parents who tell their kids they can be anything they want to be. Rand says work hard for it, while helicopter parents insist inborn talent will take care of everything--but both rely on the lie that "following your dreams" is the only noble path. Sometimes you have to do shit you're overqualified for, and sometimes you find out your dreams aren't what you thought they were, and neither situation makes you a failure. __________________ My book My other book My spirit animal

08-16-2018, 10:41 AM	#33
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Right, like wanting a toy, car, or job with all your might then being disappointed when you get it. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

08-16-2018, 05:30 PM	#36
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	Looks like the significance is complicated. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

08-17-2018, 01:58 PM	#37
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	Every corner of our history and civilization is packed full of instances where the significance is complicated. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

08-16-2018, 03:34 PM	#35
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	I was stuck on the word Jewish.

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