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I notice you weren't willing to call me a liar this time. I'm just reporting what I see.
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Thanks for givin' me the opportunity to elaborate. 'nuff said.
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I stand by both posts.
Though I doubt the flounce will last very long.
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Tobacco: As of 2015, 15.1% of US adults were smokers. In available data, 1.3% of people testing positive for COVID-19 were smokers. WHAT? 5.2% of these were both hospitalized and admitted to an ICUs. 20% of ex-smokers testing positive were admitted to ICUs. FUCK ME IF IT MIGHT TURN OUT SMOKING IS A COVID PREVENTATIVE. Do you think they'll tell people that? ~ however, that is early data ~ but wait there's more! ~ Pre-print science: Level of IL-6 predicts respiratory failure in hospitalized symptomatic COVID-19 patients Dang. So, what inhibits IL-6? Self-reported lifetime marijuana use and interleukin-6 levels in middle-aged African Americans Quote:
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#516 |
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Seems unlikely...
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Maybe, if someone (or group) makes a sufficient donation to the American Lung Association.
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Henry, it's fine. We shall have the debate whether you care to participate or not. It will be more fun if you participate.
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22,020 deaths in the U.S., as of Apr. 12, 2020 Source: Johns Hopkins |
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related: right now mortality rate in Europe is 3x higher than US, per case. don't know why that is
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We have to go back, Kate!
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That might be because the outbreak is further along in many parts of Europe - so they have had longer for individual outcomes to play out
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That's gotta be it, or most of it - we see how much 4 days difference makes
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I love it when a plan comes together.
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#523 |
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I'm sure that's not it even though I desperately want to suit the facts to my agenda
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As far as only 1.3% of U.S. coronavirus patients being smokers, I wonder how that breaks out once you control for age? Smoking always has been a young person's game, if only because they're more likely to die from cancer and other stuff before they have a chance to get terribly old.
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Overwhelmed hospitals are surely part of the equation. In Italy things got so bad they issued a "no one over age 60 gets treatment" order. Not sure if it's still in place.
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