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I forgot to add most puppies of my breed from pet millers are more expensive in the pet stores than I and others sell our spay/neuter pets.
It is up to the consumer to do their homework before buying a pet. The "need it now" mentality is exactly right Dana and that is not attributable to breeders such as myself. I am not responsible for the war in Iraq either! ![]()
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....you wrote the first post like it wasn't personal.... suddenly it is?
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I know people that have 30 dogs. Not a number that I would keep and breed but they have plenty of help and the place is clean and the dogs are well cared for, who the hell am I to tell them how many dogs they can breed or keep? Who the hell is anyone else to tell someone what they can do with their time and money as long as it is not affecting you or harming the dogs?
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Not sure what you mean, I can only explain myself personally.
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Well your first post was: this is what hobby breeders do and why.....and then when people pointed out that maybe not all of them do, you said (paraphrased) "well I do...I can't speak for everyone else"... and yet that's just what you seemed to be doing in the first post....
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their litters, and their litters, and their litters, and their litters, and their litters, and their litters, and their litters, and their litters, and their litters, and their litters, and their litters, and their litters, and their litters, and their litters, and their litters, and their litters, and their litters, and their litters, and their litters, and their litters.... How man litters a year? 2 - 4? at how many pups per litter and all those litters litters. Most of which are being bred overseas. The numbers grow rather quickly. One would think it most difficult to track all of them, if not impossible. Just sayin. But there is probably a simple explanation.
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I never said I could not speak for anyone else, I only said what I do personally. Hobby breeders have learned to now have a strong lobbying influence. I only contributed to the first post.
A conglomeration of hobby breeders wrote it as information for legislators to understand how passing animal restrictive legislation punishes the people that are for one thing spending money in their districts. Other things that have been done is that we keep a running tally of all the money we spend in various venues while attending dogs shows and performance events. This information is passed on to the legislative bodies. We are not the same as commercial pet breeders and some of the laws that are being put on the books would put unnecessary restrictions on those of us that are not really the problem or the source of the problem.
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Hey, I'm cool with what you do, but it's just that i can see the POV of those who aren't. Personally, i could live with all dog breed dyng out....
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I can see why the uninformed have a problem with what I do but animal rights extremists have no right to tell me what to do.
Typical dog show weekend cost when I can afford to go. I am low balling it... entries for two dogs two days- $100 gas to go- $50-$100 motel -$300 food -$75 vendors at the show[ dog supplies] $50-$100 There are 900-3500 entries of dogs at the show per day so lets say 700 to 2000 people for each day. Anyone can do the math here breeders like me spend way more money than we can ever hope to recoup breeding dogs. If you do away with our hobby you will do away with the revenues and some of the jobs this industry has created.
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I never assumed to know what you did/do. Purchasing an in-tact dog does typically imply that the owner is going to breed. I asked a question and hypothesized how potentially difficult, IF POSSIBLE, it is to track all the "in-tact" dogs you sold and their lineage over 20 years.
You started discussing your business and the Gov't? whatever. I really don't care that much. I was curious how it was possible though. Whatever - Peace, I'm out. Curiosity in this cat is d-e-a-d. ![]()
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