What's mildly irritating you today?

[Shawnee123]

Thanks, foot.

[Cloud]

tasteless hamburger patties at restaurants since they now have that "cook until it's dead and DEADER" thing. I ordered one "pink" the other day, as per the menu.

No pink. Give me back juicy hamburgers!

[Aliantha]

There was a small town in the US somewhere (I can't remember where) and apparently they had just the one butcher and he used to provide hamburger meat for the whole town pretty much, and apparently the whole town used to eat the hamburgers pretty rare.

When the whole town (just about) ended up with thyroidosis, they found he'd been including cow thyroids in the makings for the hamburgers, and because they were generally served rare, the thyroxin (I think that's the name of the chemical) wasn't being destroyed.

Anyway, they stopped eating thyroids and they all got better.

The moral of the story is: Always cook your hamburgers well.

[Shawnee123]

Years ago my friend's boyfriend would tell them, when ordering a steak, to just "run it under the heat lamp a couple times."

I like a medium rare to medium nice steak, but I don't want pink in my hamburgers. Cooked just beyond that, fine...but no pink. It's raw meat.

[Aliantha]

I like my steak rare, but not things like hamburger meat. You just never know what else besides hooves and entrails have gone into the mix.

[Shawnee123]

lol...exactly. A cut of meat is one thing. Ground up "parts is parts" is another thing entirely.

[Sundae]

I like medium rare burger. But if I'm any place that asks you how you like it cooked (and has it thick enough for you to notice the different) I figure it's probably pretty good cuts anyway.

[Shawnee123]

That is true. Certainly wouldn't want a rare burger from MickeyD's!

[Shawnee123]

Mildly irritating:

Mean people.

[ZenGum]

My brother likes steak thus:

A good vet should be able to get it back on its legs.


And, agreed, do NOT eat undercooked hamburger. Burger = mince = bits = brains and spinal cord = abnormal prions = vCJD = your brain turning into a sponge over the next decade or two.

For this reason I don't eat mince products. On the rare (geddit?) occasions I eat meat, I want a slab of muscle, not bits. I could never understand why anyone would eat kidney. Thats the toxic waste processing facility! Would you picnic at the gabage dump?

[Nirvana]

Originally Posted by ZenGum

My brother likes steak thus:

A good vet should be able to get it back on its legs.


And, agreed, do NOT eat undercooked hamburger. Burger = mince = bits = brains and spinal cord = abnormal prions = vCJD = your brain turning into a sponge over the next decade or two.

For this reason I don't eat mince products. On the rare (geddit?) occasions I eat meat, I want a slab of muscle, not bits. I could never understand why anyone would eat kidney. Thats the toxic waste processing facility! Would you picnic at the gabage dump?

This quote is mildly irritating me =)
abnormal prions would NEVER happen in the USA unless one is gutting their own cattle that are over 24 months of age because cattle younger than that cannot get mad cow and, brains and spinal cord are not included in any meat processed in the USA and they have not included for years. The only cases of CFJ in the USA in humans originated in England and those people came to the USA. Mad cow cases that were in the USA originated in Canada and Mexico where they still feed animal by products[not supposed to] to their cattle a practice that was banned in the USA almost 20 years ago. The reason not to eat uncooked hamburger has to do with e-coli a bacteria as abnormal prions are not affected by cooking.

[Nirvana]

Why I came to this thread before I digressed, I hate when someone steals the graphics off my page and uses them on their page. I have no trouble dealing swiftly with those in the English speaking countries because they generally understand, remove my copy written work or I will have your SP remove your web page for infringement, its those say in .. Russia that are such assholes about it!

[Pie]

Originally Posted by ZenGum

And, agreed, do NOT eat undercooked hamburger. Burger = mince = bits = brains and spinal cord = abnormal prions = vCJD = your brain turning into a sponge over the next decade or two.

Prions are relatively unaffected by heat. Therefore, cooking your burger to kingdom come will not affect its ability to turn your brain to mush. (See also: network television)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prion

Originally Posted by wikipedia

Infectious particles possessing nucleic acid are dependent upon it to direct their continued replication. Prions however, are infectious by their effect on normal versions of the protein. Therefore, sterilizing prions involves the denaturation of the protein to a state where the molecule is no longer able to induce the abnormal folding of normal proteins. However, prions are generally quite resistant to proteases, heat, radiation, and formalin treatments,[37] although their infectivity can be reduced by such treatments. Effective prion decontamination relies upon protein hydrolysis or reduction and/or destruction of protein tertiary structure. Examples include bleach, NaOH or strong acidic detergents such as LpH.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sterilization_(microbiology)

Originally Posted by wikipedia

Using mice as test animals, one experiment showed that heating BSE positive brain tissue at 134-138 °C (273-280 °F) for 18 minutes resulted in only a 2.5 log decrease in prion infectivity. (The initial BSE concentration in the tissue was relatively low). For a significant margin of safety, cleaning should reduce infectivity by 4 logs, and the sterilization method should reduce it a further 5 logs.

Nirvana, not to pick a fight, but what about "downer" cows in the US? I remember there was quite a fight about that a few years back.

[Nirvana]

Hi Pie! There has not been a downer cow in the USA that has tested positive for mad cow.[ two cows that were on diagnosed on their farms here in the USA not at a processor, that were born and raised in Canada and Mexico] One of the biggest reasons a cow cannot stand is because the nerve in the pelvic rim was damaged during calving. Other reasons are old age and pneumonia. It is also illegal to process downer cows for anything even dog food. Has been that way for at least 6 years. That's why that California processing plant was in such big trouble.

[Nirvana]

Sorry to dissect your post Zen but PETA scare tactics are the norm here wrong information about processed meat is a pet peeve of mine.
Oh another mildy irritating post from me this time! :P