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classicman 11-16-2009 11:57 AM

You're nuts.

Shawnee123 11-16-2009 11:59 AM

Yeah? Ssss...

I mean: are you just now realizing that? ;)

classicman 11-16-2009 12:01 PM

Hope springs eternal. Thought maybe just maybe . . . oh nevermind.

Shawnee123 11-16-2009 12:03 PM

OK, quit hem-hawing around, acorn man. Say what you're thinking there. Hope springs eternal for what? My sanity? Hahahahaaa. That I will ever think anything you post about Acorn has any merit in the real world? That I will just shut up and go away? What, classicman? Do tell.

classicman 11-16-2009 12:04 PM

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“A spokesman for Jerry Brown stated that they’re going to look at the tapes, they’re going to follow the facts without fear or favor, and they’re going to see where it takes them.”
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That would be a first for a politician!

classicman 11-16-2009 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 608962)
OK, quit hem-hawing around, acorn man. Say what you're thinking there.

I did.
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Hope springs eternal for what? My sanity? Hahahahaaa.
You got the joke - excellent.
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That I will ever think anything you post about Acorn has any merit in the real world?
:headshake :eyebrow: All just my opinions, of course.

Shawnee123 11-16-2009 12:07 PM

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That would be a first for a politician!
That's it? That's the big statement? Seriously, as much as we all love to hate politicians your statement is erroneous: there actually have been honest folks holding office scattered about here and there. It's no fun to write articles about them, though, and certainly no fun for those who love to buy into all the crap that is shoved down their face on a daily basis.

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You got the joke - excellent.
I'd work on your routine before going to Wiley's Comedy Club. That joke sucks! No, I don't get it. Still hem-hawing. Oh well, have at it. When you grow a pair come back and tell me what you really wanted to say.

classicman 11-16-2009 12:08 PM

okie dokie - :notworthy

classicman 12-04-2009 10:07 AM

ACORN Docs Pulled from Dumpster
 
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As Derrick Roach tells it, it was either luck or Divine intervention. His version of events may be hard to believe for ACORN supporters but the former Republican state assembly candidate believes something drew him to the Dumpster behind the ACORN office in National City on the night of Friday, Oct. 9.

Roach recalled the moment he discovered thousands of ACORN documents simply bagged up and thrown in the trash.

Roach, who describes himself as a local private investigator concerned about what was happening in his neighborhood, told how he “came by” the ACORN office and “observed some individuals in the office and also observed the individual dumping documents into the Dumpster around the corner,” he said.

“I came back later that evening, after business hours, and from an unsecured Dumpster removed those documents and they have been in my possession since,” he said.

The documents, which filled Roach's vehicle, numbered close to 20,000 according to Tony Krvaric, chairman of the Republican Party of San Diego County.

“This is a massive data breach at the very least of individuals who come to ACORN for help and assistance,” said Krvaric. “To have their information, tax returns, immigration documents thrown in the trash like common trash is absolutely an affront to every San Diegan.”
I'm not sure how much of this I believe. He is certainly biased against ACORN.

TheMercenary 12-04-2009 10:32 AM

Given ACORN's record to date it is believable enough.

classicman 12-04-2009 10:33 AM

Acorn Reps Reply . . .
 
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"In early October, when our San Diego staff were doing an office clean-up in preparation for a major 10-station phone bank program being set up in our offices, it appears that included in the piles of garbage being thrown out may have been some documents containing private information," Schur wrote in an e-mail to NBCSanDiego. "To the individuals whose paperwork was pulled out of the Dumpster we truly apologize. We will seek return of this information so that we may give proper notice of the compromising of the information as required by law."

Roach, who told reporters Monday that he has not been hired by the Republican Party of San Diego, said he has shared some of the documents with various law enforcement agencies.

For Krvaric, the main question is what is the California State Attorney's General doing about this discovery?

“We have nothing to indicate the attorney general is conducting a thorough, fair, without fear or favor investigation,” said Krvaric. “They’ve not stated anything. Clearly there are documents that they’re missing because of this document dump that occurred only six days prior to the attorney general coming into town.”

“The question is was ACORN tipped off as to when and where or when the attorney general would be arriving?” Krvaric asked.

Schur confirms the ACORN office was aware of Brown's upcoming visit but said that did not prompt the removal of thousands of documents.
Link

:eyebrow: Yeh right

ZenGum 12-04-2009 11:02 PM

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former Republican state assembly candidate believes something drew him to the Dumpster behind the ACORN office
:eyebrow:

Just following a random gut feeling? How remarkable.

Also:
1. Glad to see class and style are still present in politics. :right:
2. Isn't removing material from somebody else's bin theft?
3. Why don't ACORN have a shredder? Duh.

TheMercenary 12-04-2009 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ZenGum (Post 614986)
2. Isn't removing material from somebody else's bin theft?

No.

Happy Monkey 12-08-2009 11:05 AM

Interesting (PDF link, via):
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The unedited videos have never been made public. The videos that have been released
appear to have been edited, in some cases substantially, including the insertion of a substitute

voiceover for significant portions of Mr. O’Keefe’s and Ms.Giles’s comments, which makes it
difficult to determine the questions to which ACORN employees are responding. A comparison
of the publicly available transcripts2 to the released videos confirms that large portions of the
original video have been omitted from the released versions. To date, the videographers have declined or ignored our interview requests.


classicman 12-08-2009 02:13 PM

Wow - thats pretty damning evidence right there.
AN internal Acorn review finds that they didn't do anything illegal - I'm shocked.

Tell me that they can do better than that. Cuz if not, there are a lot more problems there than have already surfaced.


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