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Shawnee123 12-07-2006 12:42 PM

my choices, my life
 
Never fucking mind

Clodfobble 12-07-2006 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123
I always thought hard work was rewarded; I never believed that being a phony could ultimately get you somewhere.

Being a phony can indeed get you somewhere, but one place it can't get you is happy or surrounded by genuine friends. On the other hand, the idea that hard work is always rewarded is obviously false. 'Working hard at something and waiting for the reward' is very different from 'working hard at getting rewarded.'

Does leaving your job mean that you will definitely have to leave town? IMHO, leaving coworkers is not so big a deal, but leaving family is. Surely your skills could be transferrable to another job in the same area? Keep in mind that you don't have to stay in the exact same type of position, check out the "Working" thread to see how average people's careers have jumped all over the place. You might be surprised who would hire you outside your field.

Ultimately, I consider job satisfaction to be a whole-picture kind of thing, and if one part makes you miserable it doesn't matter how great the rest is. There are other jobs out there with hours flexibility, and other friendly coworkers in other companies. Can't hurt to look, anyway.

One other thing you might consider before looking, however, is whether your "great boss" knows about your dissatisfaction. Sit down with him and tell him you're genuinely considering leaving, and you never know what they might offer you.

Beestie 12-07-2006 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble
Being a phony can indeed get you somewhere...

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble
Sit down with him and tell him you're genuinely considering leaving, and you never know what they might offer you.

Good advice. I'd consider taking it.

dar512 12-07-2006 01:51 PM

Here's an easy thing to try and it doesn't require you to be pushy. Keep careful track of the work you do. Don't oversell anything, just state the case. Email the list weekly to your supervisor. Call it weekly status. If you don't see a change in your situation, either you're not as big a producer as you thought or your supervisor doesn't care that you work harder than your peers. In any case, this is easy to do, doesn't call for grandstanding and will at least let you know where you stand.

Shawnee123 12-07-2006 03:30 PM

Thanks everyone.

Actually, my boss does know and understand...and feels much the same way I do. There's just not a whole lot to be done. She encourages me to think about other opportunities at the college, because she knows my abilities; she always encourages me with the disclaimer "this is so hard for me because I don't want you to leave." We talked about this just today and she did have some ideas for a proposal to change the way my position is viewed.

It's my bosses boss who doesn't seem to see it. She is the one whose ass gets kissed. But, I like her, too. That's why it is so much harder because I never believed she would fall for the phony.

At any rate, I agree that leaving family is harder than leaving coworkers. I would like to stay in education and stay working at a college; that's why I might have to move should an ideal position come up.

Our state association had a job listing at a college in Toledo. It would require a move...but the job is exactly what I like doing and what I'm good at...for a good wage. I guess this is what prompted me to ask for advice.

It's just been such a crappy day...with the whole coworker thing hitting me in the face more than once. I have been struggling with this for a long time. My boss is very clear on my feelings and agrees. I even pray that this is taken off my heart because anger hurts. I just can't seem to get over it. Like I said, it's the combination of struggling financially, seeing my sickly paycheck every two weeks, and knowing that my hard work is overshadowed by politics. That other thread made me think that I should make a move. And, the thing holding me back there is a little bit of fear mixed with a smidgen of unknown, and the undying adage that money doesn't buy happiness.

Elspode 12-07-2006 03:50 PM

1. People suck

2. Be glad that you and I aren't people

Clodfobble 12-07-2006 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123
and the undying adage that money doesn't buy happiness.

For the record, neither does being poor. Being happy is its own pursuit, and there is nothing shameful in pursuing money at the same time.

Shawnee123 12-11-2006 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble
For the record, neither does being poor. Being happy is its own pursuit, and there is nothing shameful in pursuing money at the same time.


Good point. I think I needed to hear that.

And 'spode, you are correct as well. :)

BigV 12-11-2006 10:23 AM

I first saw this as humor, but later realized it is partly and sadly true.
 
From a strictly mathematical viewpoint, what makes 100%? What does it mean to give MORE than 100%?

Have you ever wondered about those people who say they are giving more than 100%?!?

We have all been to those meetings where someone wants you to give over 100%.

How on earth are you supposed to be able to achieve 103%?

Here's a little mathematical formula that might help you answer these questions:

What makes up 100% in life?

If:
A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z

is represented as:
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26

Then: H-A-R-D-W-O-R-K
8+1+18+4+23+15+18+11 = 98%

and

K-N-O-W-L-E-D-G-E
11+14+15+23+12+5+4+7+5 = 96%

But,

A-T-T-I-T-U-D-E
1+20+20+9+20+21+4+5 = 100%

However:

B-U-L-L- S-H-I-T
2+21+12+12+19+8+9+20 = 103%

AND, look how far ass kissing will take you!

A-S-S-K-I-S-S-I-N-G
1+19+19+11+9+19+19+9+14+7 = 118%

So, one can then conclude with mathematical certainty that: While Hard work and Knowledge may get you close, only Attitude will get you there. But more importantly – never forget that Bullshit and Ass Kissing will put you over the top.

Shawnee123 12-11-2006 10:26 AM

Ahh, see I was viewing it from an emotional standpoint when all along I should have applied science.

Thanks! :)

xoxoxoBruce 12-11-2006 04:18 PM

Besides science and emotion there is a practical aspect. The more money you make the better gifts I get. :D

There is no shame in wanting to be recognized for what you, and your boss, feel do well. Monetary compensation is the most rewarding recognition, in most cases, so there's reason to want Mo Money.

Sundae 12-11-2006 04:33 PM

As long as I have enough to keep me on my feet (and some treats) I'd rather have the recognition.

I'll never be rich with that attitude!
(I should have stayed married to money - ah well, so much for integrity)

Shawnee123 12-11-2006 06:56 PM

I like the money. I don't need much though...I'm not much for material things. I just like to have a comfort zone, a nicely running car, treats (as SG pointed out), etc.
I shouldn't complain; I have many wonderful things in my life, and most of the financial mess is my own. I'll get through it.

By the way, you are some darn good people here!

Bruce, you and your gifts. What did you do with the 5000 I sent you? :)

xoxoxoBruce 12-13-2006 09:17 PM

I autographed them and gave them to my 5,000 closest disciples.



They said to say thanks. :blush:

yesman065 12-13-2006 09:27 PM

guess I'm lower than I thought Bruce - cuz I didn't get one :(

xoxoxoBruce 12-16-2006 12:54 AM

But, the goal is in sight.... start climbing. You'll make the top 5000, yet.:D


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