[OnyxCougar]

Originally posted by Whit

First off, what I read from OC is that she has a problem with evolution being taught as fact. Not a problem with if it occurred or not. Also, I think what she was calling evolution was specifically the origin of the human race through evolution. Not evolution in general.

Well, I don't have a problem with any of it in principle. I don't know if that's how it happened or not. I specifically am not putting my personal belief here because it's not relevant to the point I'm trying to make (which doesn't seem to be coming across.)

So, I'm running with that idea. My text books always said "theory" right in the title. This meant the following section was the theory being presented. It would be distracting and annoying to have continuously reiterate that it's a theory. So it's stated in simpler terms. My six year old might not know that the word "theory" in the title means it's a theory, not a fact, but my ten year old definitely would. In other words, if a kid isn't smart enough to know what the word "theory" means, then the rest of it won't make any sense anyway.

Well, the textbooks say theory one time and then act like it's the law of gravity, irrefutable.

I'm not saying I want all of you to throw the Theory out the window as bullshit, or even that I want you to "consider God." I don't. I'm NOT one of those "pushy christians." All I'm trying to get across is that if you're going to teach one non provable theory of creation, you need to teach all of them.

Since I'm a person you are telling me I have "a religious faith of some kind." I like you OC so I'm not going to take that as an insult. Instead I'm asking you to back it up. How do I have religious faith?

I like you too, Whit, we generally see eye to eye on most issues. I wasn't trying to insult anyone. That's not my style.

But, like Dave posted, not making a choice is, in fact, making a choice. Your stance on religion, whether it's important in your life or not, (although not relevant to this discussion) is your belief system. You have a belief system. EVERYONE does. What that belief system is could be anything. But it is there. And faith is a form of belief. See all the semantics posts Bruce and I engaged in.

What you believe in doesn't matter. They are teaching nonobservable ideas as FACT and it's wrong. I keep repeating the same "bullshit" (:p @ Dave) because everyone (generally) seems to be thinking I'm against Evolution. I'm not. It's a great idea. But (for the millionth time) is not a FACT or a LAW of science. It's an IDEA presented as fact. And that is my only problem with it. Get it out of science class. Can you teach gravity? Yup. Physics? yup. Chemistry? Definetly. It doesn't hurt science to take Evolution out, does it? Biology is still the same. Nothing changes if you don't mention primordial soup, does it? That's because those subjects ARE science, backed by observable, duplicatable facts. Is anyone seeing the fundamental difference here?