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Old 11-18-2006, 03:46 PM   #1
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USMC Gets it Right

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LOS ANGELES, California (AP) -- A talking Jesus doll has been turned down by the Marine Reserves' Toys for Tots program.

A Los Angeles company offered to donate 4,000 of the 1-foot-tall dolls, which quote Bible verses, for distribution to needy children this holiday season.

The battery-powered Jesus is one of several dolls manufactured by one2believe, a division of the Valencia-based Beverly Hills Teddy Bear Co., based on biblical figures. (Watch to see and hear the Bible-quoting dolls -- 1:52)

But the charity balked because of the dolls' religious nature.

Toys are donated to kids based on financial need and "we don't know anything about their background, their religious affiliations," said Bill Grein, vice president of Marine Toys for Tots Foundation, in Quantico, Virginia.

As a government entity, Marines "don't profess one religion over another," Grein said Tuesday. "We can't take a chance on sending a talking Jesus doll to a Jewish family or a Muslim family."

Michael La Roe, director of business development for both companies, said the charity's decision left him "surprised and disappointed."

"The idea was for them to be three-dimensional teaching tools for kids," La Roe said. "I believe as a churchgoing person, anyone can benefit from hearing the words of the Bible."

According to the company's Web site, the button-activated, bearded Jesus, dressed in hand-sewn cloth outfits and sandals, recites Scripture such as "I tell you the truth, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again" and "Love your neighbor as yourself." It has a $20 retail value.

Grein questioned whether children would welcome a gift designed for religious instruction.

"Kids want a gift for the holiday season that is fun," he said.

The program distributed 18 million stuffed animals, games, toy trucks and other gifts to children in 2005.

I say bravo, USMC, for doing the right thing. I also think Mr La Roe is an idiot if he truly is "surprised and disappointed".

If they want to give them away, there are literally hundreds of faith based charities that I'm sure would be glad to take them. Or they could put an ad in the paper and park a truck at some parking lot, letting people that want them, come for them.
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Old 11-18-2006, 04:07 PM   #2
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Not anymore. Though it seems they're handling it well; sending the dolls to the groups that wrote in to complain.
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Old 11-18-2006, 04:24 PM   #3
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I wonder if Mr La Roe knew they would be rejected and give him free publicity? Seems to me that if they are getting all these requests from all over the world, there is no need for the Marines to be involved at all, now.
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Old 11-18-2006, 05:09 PM   #4
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Old 11-18-2006, 08:25 PM   #5
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I thought it was Gunny and the rest of you scum sucking dogs.
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Old 11-18-2006, 09:32 PM   #6
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I'm a little bummed out by this reverse, though I can see the expedience of not wanting to waste time fielding calls...
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Old 11-18-2006, 09:58 PM   #7
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Strange how so many just cannot understand the separation of church and state.
Lot of very slow people out there.
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Old 11-18-2006, 10:20 PM   #8
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I wonder if Mr La Roe knew they would be rejected and give him free publicity? Seems to me that if they are getting all these requests from all over the world, there is no need for the Marines to be involved at all, now.
Oh! Now I understand his "surprised and disappointed" response. Sneaky fucker, using the media to turn religion into money.
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Old 11-19-2006, 12:53 AM   #9
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Okay, someone 'splain this to me all slow like ... you're not allowed to donate a toy Jesus to celebrate his "birthday" ... am I getting this properly?
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Old 11-19-2006, 01:52 AM   #10
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I'm guessing it's because the Santa Claus, present-giving version of Christmas is not considered religious...but I'm a little confused, too.
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Old 11-19-2006, 08:15 AM   #11
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Okay, someone 'splain this to me all slow like ... you're not allowed to donate a toy Jesus to celebrate his "birthday" ... am I getting this properly?
In theory they're giving presents for the "holiday season," including Hannukkah, et al.
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Old 11-19-2006, 10:27 AM   #12
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The reality is there are two Christmases, the religious and the secular. The secular, although originating from the religious celebration, is capable of standing on it's own and would continue without Christians.

I think it's important to keep them separate simply to keep the politically correct from corrupting the religious holiday and the religious holiday from imposing on others.
The government (marines) should not be involved with the religious one.
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Old 11-19-2006, 10:39 AM   #13
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Old 11-19-2006, 10:45 AM   #14
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Old 11-19-2006, 12:44 PM   #15
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Yeah...I was thinking I recalled something about not worshipping graven images that I read somewhere.
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