America's Antagonistic Allies

This is a good piece about America's so-called "allies" in Europe. The title is "America's Antagonistic Allies"
The author is George Handlery

http://www.politicallyright.com/article155.htm

This is a quote from the article:

"America and a number of her nominal allies, first and foremost the states of the Western section of the European continent, glance at the vicissitudes of the world through differently colored lenses. This makes popular attitudes fundamental. To many Americans who wish to qualify as part of the cultured cluster, Europe has a “snob-value.” America's view of Europe is determined by a prejudice that those sophisticated Continentals are worldly, politically wise and as such superior to barefooted US clod hoppers. To hell with the blunderers which made two world wars possible."

[Elspode]

I think all this means is that they will be ever so formal, diplomatic and polite when they come begging us to kick the next conquering force out of their oh-so-superior-and-cultured countries.

[tw]

Originally posted by Buddy
This is a good piece about America's so-called "allies" in Europe. The title is "America's Antagonistic Allies"
The author is George Handlery

Its really a subtle explanation of how America now must make the same mistakes that Europe made. Suddenly America must save the world from itself. If they don't conform to our standards, then we will force American standards on them. They must want democracy because all people must want democracy - and to be saved by Christianity?

If some actually think, then we will bury them in rhetoric about patriotism, flag waving, speeches from a drug addict called Rush Limbaugh, and 'gods chosen people'. Those alone prove the Europeans must be stupid.

Once Americans were smarter which was why Americans were admired virtually everywhere. America even stopped Britian and France from attacking Egypt - because such war solves nothing. Americans could walk into a war zone as friends of both sides when Americans did not force American values on everyone. When America did not try to save everyone from themselves. When America was not a world policeman. When America did not spend more money on military adventures than upon anything else.

Today, Americans have a testostertone complex. We are right. Then we seek facts to justify that conclusion. Everyone who thinks differently must be America's enemy or a fag. No wonder American popularity dropped from 70% numbers to single digit numbers throughout the world. So many actually think this George Handlery nonsense makes sense - a classic example of reliving the mistakes of history. What happens when Americans are so superior as see enemies everywhere - even among America's closest allies? Its called McCarthyism.

These young studs never learned from VietNam or Somolia. We are right because we spend more on military than the entire world combined. That alone proves we must be right. Its called extremism. "Extremism in defense of liberty is no vise"? Tell that to 50,000 wasted American lives in SE Asia because we were Americans - and therefore must be right. Thirty years have passed. A new generation of Americans knows so much more because might makes right; the lessons of history be damned.

George Handlery writes reason justified by testosterone - because America is superior to all foreigners. We need kill another 50,000 American to relearn? Too many experts need not learn from history.

Actually, George Handlery's article mocks the extremist rhetoric - when viewed from the perspective of logic. Smart Americans don't see enemies everywhere - as George Handlery and George Jr does. American had friends everywhere when paranoia was not represented in the White House. George Handlery advocates that paranoia - where everyone is a potential enemy.

Just as that Wolfovich article proclaimed when it called for preemptive (Pearl Harbor type) attacks on Germany, Russia, and India. Paranoia. They must be enemies.

[Beestie]

Nice post, tw.

[Kitsune]

If some actually think, then we will bury them in rhetoric about patriotism, flag waving, speeches from a drug addict called Rush Limbaugh, and 'gods chosen people'. Those alone prove the Europeans must be stupid.

Oh, damn, and here I thought I was being patriotic by slapping American flag stickers on my car, renaming foods to things such as "Freedom Fries", and not buying wine or cheese.

[wolf]

You're darn right you're not!! You're not buying domestic wine and cheese, boy ... you have to stimulate OUR economy.

[Kitsune]

Originally posted by wolf
You're darn right you're not!! You're not buying domestic wine and cheese, boy ... you have to stimulate OUR economy.

But those little plastic flags were five bucks! Hey, wait a minute...

"Made in China"? Shit!

[OnyxCougar]

What I got out of the article was that we need to re-evaluate who our "allies" really are.

France, Germany and Russia certainly aren't our "allies" , they are friendly, but hardly "allies". I think he was right when he said:

America's alliances need to be reconsidered. This implies a formulation of what an ally is; it also implies that a hard-nosed criterion be applied to all allies, no matter where the findings might lead.

Nothing wrong with taking stock in who your friends are.

[tw]

Originally posted by OnyxCougar
What I got out of the article was that we need to re-evaluate who our "allies" really are. ... Nothing wrong with taking stock in who your friends are.

George Handlery article forgets to mention the many other 'former' American friends who opposed a George Jr attack on Iraq. Add Canada and Mexico to the list. Why are Canadian companies not permitted to bid on Iraqi contracts? Because, according to the George Jr administration, Canadians, like German and French, cannot be trusted (but Rwanda and Bruendi can be trusted?). Virtually the entire world opposed George Jr's Iraq expedition (as demonstrated by the one sided opposition in the Security Council). Where America got support (ie Spain and Italy), their public was roundly opposed to their government's decision on the order of 4 to 1! More of the world acting in America's interests.

Who is providing support to Afghanistan? America is so stretched thin (militarily) that American cannot even fix infrastructure in Afghanistan years later. Germany and France are the strongest American allies in Afghanistan - doing most of the work in a country (unlike Iraq) where war was fully justified.

Rather ironic when American allies best represent American interests, then testosterone inspired flag wavers would instead blame American allies (and forget support that American allies are providing such as in Afghanistan and west coast Africa).

BTW, a trusted George Jr ally is Pakistan - who provide N Korea and Libya with nuclear expertise. Both countries received massive technological advances from Pakistan only in the past few years. Pakistan - a country that George Jr would call a better ally than German and France? Where does George Handlery mention that part (that would undermine his entire premise)?

That George Handlery article lies by telling half truths: to inspire those who use testosterone as knowledge. He probably would have you believe that Al Qaeda and Saddam were potential allies - another outright lie that even Colin Powell just exposed as such. Another way to decieve a public that does not first learn the facts - forget other important facts that those high on testosterone would not know anyway.

We need to re evalute those so ill informed as to not understand the joke written by George Handlery. We now know that Saddam posed no threat to Europe or America - as most of the world - especially American allies - suggested. We now have the quagmire created by a president who lied much like Johnson did in 1964 to justify a war he wanted - facts be damned.

[Undertoad]

That George Handlery article lies by telling half truths: to inspire those who use testosterone as knowledge. He probably would have you believe that Al Qaeda and Saddam were potential allies - another outright lie that even Colin Powell just exposed as such.

"In terms of intention, he always had it," Powell said. "What he was waiting to do is see if he could break the will of the international community, get rid of any potential future inspections, and get back to his intentions, which were to have weapons of mass destruction."

A report released Thursday by the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace said that Iraq had posed no imminent threat to the United States and that there was no solid evidence showing cooperation between Saddam and Al Qaeda.

Powell said, however, that he was "confident of what I presented last year" and added, "This game is still unfolding."

http://www.iht.com/articles/123906.html

[Griff]

The latest fold is bringing home the crew.

Washington -- The Bush administration has quietly withdrawn from Iraq a 400-member military team whose job was to scour the country for military equipment, according to senior government officials.

The step was described by some military officials as a sign that the administration might have lowered its sights and no longer expected to uncover the caches of chemical and biological weapons that the White House cited as a principal reason for going to war last March.

[Torrere]

Usually, I find it difficult to stomach tw's posts.

but this:

Its really a subtle explanation of how America now must make the same mistakes that Europe made. Suddenly America must save the world from itself. If they don't conform to our standards, then we will force American standards on them. They must want democracy because all people must want democracy - and to be saved by Christianity?

...is an insight that struck my heart.

[elSicomoro]

Originally posted by OnyxCougar
Nothing wrong with taking stock in who your friends are.

But is there anyone that really wants to be friends with us anymore?

[Torrere]

Romania does!* Qatar does!

*I think it does.

[Undertoad]

I guess the question really boils down to this:

How much of a threat is radical Islam?

No really. On a scale of 1 to 10, where 1 is "radical Islam is a minor group of assholes who just got lucky on 9/11" and 10 is "radical Islam represents the world's next big cultural collision with the possible repercussion of the collapse of the USA", where do you all stand?