Solving the image problem (prisoner abuse)

Griff · 05-04-2004, 07:17 AM

The solution to this problem is very harsh. We want to improve our image and we want to give legitamacy to Iraqs new government. Let the new Iraqi judiciary try and punish everyone involved, soldiers, CIA, and civilians.

05-04-2004, 07:40 AM

Sure, only we don't really turn over anyone important - just round up a few scapegoats who are expendable like in that old Australian film, "Breaker Morant." Hmmmm, any colonials we don't much care for who are on our side in Iraq? I know! Let's turn some Canadian over to the new Iraqui government. No one will miss a few of them. Yes, it was a Canadian plot!

You, dreamer, you, Griff.

Beestie · 05-04-2004, 08:45 AM

Solution?

Go back in time and call off the invasion.

Other than that, I don't see a solution to the problem of providing irrevocable evidence that we are just as capable of atrocities as the regime we replaced. At this point, I don't even think it would help if we found an entire fleet of tankers brimming over with bioToxins.

I wasn't worried about our international image re: invading Iraq... until now.

wolf · 05-04-2004, 10:15 AM

Just keep us the fuck out of the international criminal court ...

Troubleshooter · 05-04-2004, 10:19 AM

Kill every Iraqi and then they won't be mad at us.

jaguar · 05-04-2004, 12:20 PM

I didn't know Ann Coulter frequented this board.

Troubleshooter · 05-04-2004, 12:22 PM

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Originally posted by jaguar
I didn't know Ann Coulter frequented this board.

TheLorax · 05-04-2004, 01:35 PM

Well, the last thing Bush should be doing right now it bragging in campaign speeches that “because we acted, Saddam's torture chambers are closed.”

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea.../20040504.html

Funny, they don’t look closed to me. They just look like Americans are now running them instead of Sadam’s people. But then Sadam’s people are back in charge of the military so well the more things change the more they stay the same it would seem.

russotto · 05-04-2004, 01:37 PM

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Originally posted by Griff
The solution to this problem is very harsh. We want to improve our image and we want to give legitamacy to Iraqs new government. Let the new Iraqi judiciary try and punish everyone involved, soldiers, CIA, and civilians.

Such an act would reduce the legitimacy of OUR government, as it would violate our laws.

05-04-2004, 02:58 PM

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Originally posted by russotto

Such an act would reduce the legitimacy of OUR government, as it would violate our laws.

Uhmmmm, ftttttttttttt! Like our government never violates its own laws! Thats it! We'll send Bush and Company thru the"Scared Straight" program and make them read all Lady S.'s posts on capitol punishment! I'm sure that will straighten them right up.

Torrere · 05-04-2004, 03:19 PM

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Originally posted by TheLorax
Well, the last thing Bush should be doing right now it bragging in campaign speeches that “because we acted, Saddam's torture chambers are closed.”

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea.../20040504.html

TRANSCRIPTION:
GEORGE: Hi
AUDIENCE: (Applause.) Four more years! Four more years!
GEORGE: I love my wife.
AUDIENCE: USA! USA! USA!
GEORGE: I want to thank my friends for coming to visit me.
AUDIENCE: USA! USA! USA!
GOERGE: blah blah (Applause.) blah blah (Applause.) blah blah
AUDIENCE: Four more years! For more years!
GEORGE: blah blah blah
AUDIENCE: We love you George!!!!
GEORGE: blah blah blah (Applause.) blah blah
GEORGE: Okay, now let's get to my speech.
AUDIENCE: Four more years! USA! USA!
GEORGE: Blah, blah, blah (Applause.) and blah have happened during my term. (Applause.) We will hunt down Al-Qaeda.
Audience: USA! USA!
GEORGE: Now it's election time again.
I'm running against -- I'm running against an experienced United States Senator.
AUDIENCE: Booo!
GEORGE: My opponent is a lying flip-flopper.
AUDIENCE: Booo!
GEORGE: My opponent has done blah (Laughter.) and blah (Laughter.) and blah (Laughter.)
GEORGE: In November, people will vote for me (Applause.)

CHORUS:

GEORGE: I do action x (Applause.) and he does action -x (Booo!).

CHORUS x 16

GEORGE: blah (Applause.) September 11. (Applause.) blah (Applause.) I stand for the Christian Right (Applause.) blah (Applause.) blah (Applause.) blah (Applause.) Responsibility is good. (Applause.) blah (Applause.) blah (Applause.) blah (Applause.)
GEORGE: God bless America, thank you. (Applause.)

tw · 05-04-2004, 06:24 PM

Lets see. George Jr and UT both claim Saddam had rape rooms. Trouble is they could not even prove it. However we have proof that George Jr has created rape rooms. One male US guard had sex with his female Iraqi prisoner. Of course that is OK. Not even a court marshal since we need not even worry about a trial in The Hague. After all, he was only doing what god's choosen president condones.

Sexual abuse of heathens was acceptable when god's choosen president opened Camp Delta in Cuba - so that isolation, sexual and other abuse would be legal. God is not dumb. That is why he choose George Jr to be president. That is why good Americans now run the rape rooms in Iraq.

We have the president we deserve. Happens when we let right wing religious extremists do the voting for us. By 97% - they elected god's choosen president for us. Clearly god has declared sexual abuse of evil Islamic prisoners to be justified. No reason for the administration to even inform Congress that it was ongoing - since clearly torture and sexual abuse is god's will.

We know god choose George Jr. George Jr said so the day he took office as Govenor of TX.

05-04-2004, 07:17 AM	#1
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	Solving the image problem (prisoner abuse) The solution to this problem is very harsh. We want to improve our image and we want to give legitamacy to Iraqs new government. Let the new Iraqi judiciary try and punish everyone involved, soldiers, CIA, and civilians. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

05-04-2004, 08:45 AM	#3
Beestie -◊\|≡·∙■·∙≡\|◊- Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Parts unknown. Posts: 4,081	Solution? Go back in time and call off the invasion. Other than that, I don't see a solution to the problem of providing irrevocable evidence that we are just as capable of atrocities as the regime we replaced. At this point, I don't even think it would help if we found an entire fleet of tankers brimming over with bioToxins. I wasn't worried about our international image re: invading Iraq... until now. __________________ ♠ ♥ ♣ ♦

05-04-2004, 10:15 AM	#4
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	Just keep us the fuck out of the international criminal court ... __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

05-04-2004, 10:19 AM	#5
Troubleshooter The urban Jane Goodall Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 3,012	Kill every Iraqi and then they won't be mad at us. __________________ I have gained this from philosophy: that I do without being commanded what others do only from fear of the law. - Aristotle

05-04-2004, 12:20 PM	#6
jaguar whig Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 5,075	I didn't know Ann Coulter frequented this board. __________________ Good friends, good books and a sleepy conscience: this is the ideal life. - Twain

05-04-2004, 07:40 AM	#2
marichiko Guest Posts: n/a	Sure, only we don't really turn over anyone important - just round up a few scapegoats who are expendable like in that old Australian film, "Breaker Morant." Hmmmm, any colonials we don't much care for who are on our side in Iraq? I know! Let's turn some Canadian over to the new Iraqui government. No one will miss a few of them. Yes, it was a Canadian plot! You, dreamer, you, Griff.

05-04-2004, 01:35 PM	#8
TheLorax Keeper of the Decorum Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: NC - USA Posts: 59	war is peace Well, the last thing Bush should be doing right now it bragging in campaign speeches that “because we acted, Saddam's torture chambers are closed.” http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea.../20040504.html Funny, they don’t look closed to me. They just look like Americans are now running them instead of Sadam’s people. But then Sadam’s people are back in charge of the military so well the more things change the more they stay the same it would seem. __________________ "Unless someone like you cares a whole lot, nothing is going to get better. It's not." Dr. Seuss

05-04-2004, 06:24 PM	#12
tw Read? I only know how to write. Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 11,933	Lets see. George Jr and UT both claim Saddam had rape rooms. Trouble is they could not even prove it. However we have proof that George Jr has created rape rooms. One male US guard had sex with his female Iraqi prisoner. Of course that is OK. Not even a court marshal since we need not even worry about a trial in The Hague. After all, he was only doing what god's choosen president condones. Sexual abuse of heathens was acceptable when god's choosen president opened Camp Delta in Cuba - so that isolation, sexual and other abuse would be legal. God is not dumb. That is why he choose George Jr to be president. That is why good Americans now run the rape rooms in Iraq. We have the president we deserve. Happens when we let right wing religious extremists do the voting for us. By 97% - they elected god's choosen president for us. Clearly god has declared sexual abuse of evil Islamic prisoners to be justified. No reason for the administration to even inform Congress that it was ongoing - since clearly torture and sexual abuse is god's will. We know god choose George Jr. George Jr said so the day he took office as Govenor of TX. Last edited by tw; 05-04-2004 at 07:27 PM.

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