My parents views on choices.

fargon · 06-23-2007, 10:40 AM

My parents told me that I could to be any thing I wanted to be.

So I became an ASSHOLE!!!

Cloud · 06-23-2007, 01:46 PM

it's surprising how much you can get accomplished in life just by being more obnoxious than the other guy is willing to be

Ibby · 06-24-2007, 12:00 AM

My parents' views on choices:

You can make any choice you want, be whatever you want to be... as long as you make the choices we want you to make.

fargon · 06-24-2007, 01:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ibram

My parents' views on choices:

You can make any choice you want, be whatever you want to be... as long as you make the choices we want you to make.

No shit, that sound so familiar.

Ibby · 06-24-2007, 03:59 AM

I just bought a couple pairs of jeans I really like... they make me feel, well, hot, they make me feel pretty good about how I look, which is rare for me... and now my mom wont let me get any more because theyre 'too tight'.

BULLSHIT. That's rather the POINT, you don't yell at my SISTER for wearing tight clothes - you encourage her to! Why can't I look good too? They look too gay for you or something? Fuck you! I'm getting more when we go back, anyway. Tough shit, I have a job, and income, now, I can buy whatever the fuck clothes I want.

Jaydaan · 06-25-2007, 03:06 PM

If you were my child (mine are 20, 18, 17 and 12 btw), you could buy whatever you wanted.... and as soon as you lived in your own house... paying all your own bills.. you could wear them too!

Although I would want to know why you wanted them, and explain why I did not like them... usually there would be a compromise. For my girls, I have been known to allow the short skirts if there were boyshorts or opaque tights underneath. I try to explain the difference between personal style and expression and inappropriate/slutty. I have been known to allow tight pants on my son (he is 17) as long as he could sit, bend down, do yard work in them without being uncomfortable or splitting them. But I would not allow the falling off your body 30 sizes too big pants that show your ass, or underwear. I would rather the 70's 80's rock star too tight stuff, before I will allow the gang/rapper crap.

I suppose it comes down to respect more so than choices, although it would be the same for all the kids, mind you. If your parents did not like an outfit, be respectful and do not wear it around them... do what most of us did, go to a friends, get changed (put on make up etc...) then go out... just remember to change back before you go home.

Choices on appropriate clothes is not limited to teens, I have seen 30, and 50 year olds wearing things I would not be caught dead in as well. I suppose it comes down to this : try to think what your outfit says to: your teacher, your grandmother, your friends, your boss, strangers who you may have to talk with. If I was walking down the street, and a 17 yr old boy approached me in baggy clothes, hat on backwards, 20 chains around his neck..... I would be more leary than if the same kid in tight jeans and a t-shirt approached me. Image does matter, and your parents are probably just trying to make sure you understand that, even if they might be going about it wrong in your eyes.

TheMercenary · 06-25-2007, 08:10 PM

Heh... Imagine fucking that?

Ibby · 06-25-2007, 08:16 PM

I dont see any harm in the image of the, as you put it, "70's 80's rock star too tight stuff". I think I look damn good in it - I have a nice ass if I do say so myself, and neat blue jeans and a classic rock band shirt is far from an unruly impression. When I actually manage to tame my hair, I look pretty good, if somewhat gay - which, I think, is where their problem lies.

And the paying the bills thing? My dad's employer pays the rent, electric, and water bills. I'd be happy to pay my share of the five-dollar cable bill or the ten-dollar internet bill, and I already end up buying my own food four times out of five. Therefore, I should be able to wear any clothes I buy with my own money - he's not paying for me, honestly.

In fact, he's not paying for ME at all - everything he really gets, is for him - like the 1500 dollar handwired tube amp + preamp he just bought, against the council of everyone else in the family. Dick.

fargon · 06-26-2007, 07:24 AM

The nice thing about being 50 is I can wear any f**king thing I want and nobody will say s**t to me, 'cuz they know I don't give a shit.

Spexxvet · 06-26-2007, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fargon

My parents told me that I could to be any thing I wanted to be.

So I became an ASSHOLE!!!

From your lips to God's ears.

Hoof Hearted · 06-26-2007, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ibram

...he's not paying for me, honestly.

Yes, he is. His employer may actually pay the household expenses, but it is still your father's job that is allowing for those paid expenses. Honestly.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ibram

...everything he really gets, is for him - like the 1500 dollar handwired tube amp + preamp he just bought, against the council of everyone else in the family.

...and what? He isn't allowed anything fun just for himself?

I'm glad I always knew I never wanted children. I know what kind of child I was for my parents and I don't think I could have done as good of a job myself, as they did with me. I'm sure I still annoy my mother because I don't make the decisions she wants me to make...but the decisions I make, make me happy and don't harm others...so I don't let her harping bother me much.

Shawnee123 · 06-26-2007, 11:18 AM

I never had a big problem with my parents' rules. I might not have liked the rules but they were their rules. I was taught respect.

I started buying my own clothes when I first started working in the summers, but if I had tried to get away with a hooker outfit, that outfit would have gone into the trash. I was taught class.

Never for one minute would I think my dad was a d*** (can't even use that word in the same sentence) because he got something for himself. I liked my parents to be happy, too. I was taught love.

But, they sacrificed anyway, because they loved and respected me. Who or what is missing in your equation?

06-26-2007, 07:19 PM

I just never wore clothes in front of my parents they would not like. If I bought it, it is mine, no need to bring it up.
Changed elsewhere. Did not tell them things that would upset them.
No need to.
Kids, too often, start shit just to start shit.

Ibby · 06-26-2007, 09:37 PM

I personally favor the honest, upright approach to it. Changing elsewhere, whatever - not my thing.

Though every day I'm leaning more and more towards that approach - especially since then it could go WELL past just how tight my pants are, or anything like that. Makeup (tasteful makeup, mind you), jewellry, the whole nine yards.

Schyeah, that would be schweet, but...

piercehawkeye45 · 06-27-2007, 07:47 AM

My parents and I have never really had a big problem with my choices. I've always respected their rules and they've respected my decisions.

I wore tight jeans my senior year of high school but my parents didn't have a problem with it but they didn't like it. I didn't go overboard with it though.

Also, I never went throught that "rebel against authority" stage, pretty pointless in my mind.

06-23-2007, 10:40 AM	#1
fargon Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: La Crosse, WI Posts: 8,924	My parents views on choices. My parents told me that I could to be any thing I wanted to be. So I became an ASSHOLE!!! __________________ Annoy the ones that ignore you!!! I live a blessed life I Love my Country, I Fear the Government!!! Heavily medicated for the good of mankind.

06-23-2007, 01:46 PM	#2
Cloud ... Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,360	it's surprising how much you can get accomplished in life just by being more obnoxious than the other guy is willing to be __________________ "Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards!"

06-24-2007, 12:00 AM	#3
Ibby erika Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: "the high up north" Posts: 6,127	My parents' views on choices: You can make any choice you want, be whatever you want to be... as long as you make the choices we want you to make. __________________ not really back, you didn't see me, i was never here shhhhhh

06-24-2007, 03:59 AM	#5
Ibby erika Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: "the high up north" Posts: 6,127	I just bought a couple pairs of jeans I really like... they make me feel, well, hot, they make me feel pretty good about how I look, which is rare for me... and now my mom wont let me get any more because theyre 'too tight'. BULLSHIT. That's rather the POINT, you don't yell at my SISTER for wearing tight clothes - you encourage her to! Why can't I look good too? They look too gay for you or something? Fuck you! I'm getting more when we go back, anyway. Tough shit, I have a job, and income, now, I can buy whatever the fuck clothes I want. __________________ not really back, you didn't see me, i was never here shhhhhh

06-25-2007, 08:10 PM	#7
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	Heh... Imagine fucking that? __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

06-25-2007, 03:06 PM	#6
Jaydaan Knight of the Oval-Shaped Conference Table Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Vernon, BC, Canada Posts: 378	If you were my child (mine are 20, 18, 17 and 12 btw), you could buy whatever you wanted.... and as soon as you lived in your own house... paying all your own bills.. you could wear them too! Although I would want to know why you wanted them, and explain why I did not like them... usually there would be a compromise. For my girls, I have been known to allow the short skirts if there were boyshorts or opaque tights underneath. I try to explain the difference between personal style and expression and inappropriate/slutty. I have been known to allow tight pants on my son (he is 17) as long as he could sit, bend down, do yard work in them without being uncomfortable or splitting them. But I would not allow the falling off your body 30 sizes too big pants that show your ass, or underwear. I would rather the 70's 80's rock star too tight stuff, before I will allow the gang/rapper crap. I suppose it comes down to respect more so than choices, although it would be the same for all the kids, mind you. If your parents did not like an outfit, be respectful and do not wear it around them... do what most of us did, go to a friends, get changed (put on make up etc...) then go out... just remember to change back before you go home. Choices on appropriate clothes is not limited to teens, I have seen 30, and 50 year olds wearing things I would not be caught dead in as well. I suppose it comes down to this : try to think what your outfit says to: your teacher, your grandmother, your friends, your boss, strangers who you may have to talk with. If I was walking down the street, and a 17 yr old boy approached me in baggy clothes, hat on backwards, 20 chains around his neck..... I would be more leary than if the same kid in tight jeans and a t-shirt approached me. Image does matter, and your parents are probably just trying to make sure you understand that, even if they might be going about it wrong in your eyes.

06-25-2007, 08:16 PM	#8
Ibby erika Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: "the high up north" Posts: 6,127	I dont see any harm in the image of the, as you put it, "70's 80's rock star too tight stuff". I think I look damn good in it - I have a nice ass if I do say so myself, and neat blue jeans and a classic rock band shirt is far from an unruly impression. When I actually manage to tame my hair, I look pretty good, if somewhat gay - which, I think, is where their problem lies. And the paying the bills thing? My dad's employer pays the rent, electric, and water bills. I'd be happy to pay my share of the five-dollar cable bill or the ten-dollar internet bill, and I already end up buying my own food four times out of five. Therefore, I should be able to wear any clothes I buy with my own money - he's not paying for me, honestly. In fact, he's not paying for ME at all - everything he really gets, is for him - like the 1500 dollar handwired tube amp + preamp he just bought, against the council of everyone else in the family. Dick. __________________ not really back, you didn't see me, i was never here shhhhhh

06-26-2007, 07:24 AM	#9
fargon Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: La Crosse, WI Posts: 8,924	The nice thing about being 50 is I can wear any fking thing I want and nobody will say st to me, 'cuz they know I don't give a shit. __________________ Annoy the ones that ignore you!!! I live a blessed life I Love my Country, I Fear the Government!!! Heavily medicated for the good of mankind.

06-26-2007, 11:18 AM	#12
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	I never had a big problem with my parents' rules. I might not have liked the rules but they were their rules. I was taught respect. I started buying my own clothes when I first started working in the summers, but if I had tried to get away with a hooker outfit, that outfit would have gone into the trash. I was taught class. Never for one minute would I think my dad was a d*** (can't even use that word in the same sentence) because he got something for himself. I liked my parents to be happy, too. I was taught love. But, they sacrificed anyway, because they loved and respected me. Who or what is missing in your equation? __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

06-26-2007, 07:19 PM	#13
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	I just never wore clothes in front of my parents they would not like. If I bought it, it is mine, no need to bring it up. Changed elsewhere. Did not tell them things that would upset them. No need to. Kids, too often, start shit just to start shit.

06-26-2007, 09:37 PM	#14
Ibby erika Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: "the high up north" Posts: 6,127	I personally favor the honest, upright approach to it. Changing elsewhere, whatever - not my thing. Though every day I'm leaning more and more towards that approach - especially since then it could go WELL past just how tight my pants are, or anything like that. Makeup (tasteful makeup, mind you), jewellry, the whole nine yards. Schyeah, that would be schweet, but... __________________ not really back, you didn't see me, i was never here shhhhhh

06-27-2007, 07:47 AM	#15
piercehawkeye45 Franklin Pierce Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,695	My parents and I have never really had a big problem with my choices. I've always respected their rules and they've respected my decisions. I wore tight jeans my senior year of high school but my parents didn't have a problem with it but they didn't like it. I didn't go overboard with it though. Also, I never went throught that "rebel against authority" stage, pretty pointless in my mind.

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