The Secret Genocide Archive

[Kitsune]

Since we seem to be in the business of it, lately, when is the US going to help provide some freedom for the people of Darfur? (graphic image warning)

[OnyxCougar]

nevermind.

[Kitsune]

Linky worky now. (maybe?)

[Troubleshooter]

Is there anyone over there who actually want's us there? If the situation is that bad, and I don't doubt that it is, and no one over there wants us, how do we achieve any form of success?

At least in the middle east there are six or eight people who want us there.

[DanaC]

Darfur doesnt have a shit load of oil

[Beestie]

I'm not completely up to speed on what the UN is doing about this. Seems to me its under the UN's jurisdiction which may explain the extent of the carnage.

[OnyxCougar]

This is what the UN is doing.


Basically, nothing.

[Troubleshooter]

My take on the article is that since the US won't join the club (Hague) they are unwilling to commit to the necessary action of intervening in the deaths of thousands of innocents, even though the US has put forward a plan of action (of dubious credibility presently, I'll admit).

[jaguar]

if the us was going to honesty 'liberate' people everywhere we'd be seeing C-130s landing in Harare by now. Think those pics are bad, you should see all the images I've got from Chechnya. If anyone ever wants to know what war really looks like pick up Inferno, it's a retrospective of the last 10 years of James Nachtwey's work. Blows the mind. Or pick up a copy of 8, it picks up a lot of photos that otherwise would never get published.

[Troubleshooter]

A friend of mine is from Bosnia and has seen the UN in (in)action first hand. He's rightfully derisive of them.

The whole world is suffering a credibility and moral crisis right now.

We need a hero.

[Kitsune]

The recent news against the UN peacekeeping forces that allegedly raped those they were assigned to help is particularly disturbing. The psychology of being in a war-torn country can't be good for anyone and someone really needs to redesign how the aid workers interact with the citizens.

[wolf]

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[tw]

Originally Posted by OnyxCougar

This is what the UN is doing.
Basically, nothing.

... which is the simplistic answer. Realities are far more complex and quite obsure. Yes, anyone can see dead bodies. That says people are dying. But again from the lessons of history - responsibility lies first with the regional powers. More commonly known as the African Union whose militaries spend something like $20billlion annually on military expenditures and are suppose to have about 100 divisions at their disposal. The African Union local command HQ is suppose to be in Addis Ababa in Ethiopia. So what is the African Union doing about Darfur?

Yes there are massacres ongoing in Darfur. And yes, the Sudanese government is obviously complicit. But as demonstrated in places like Kosovo, first the regional powers take responsibility and must first fail to do the job. The alternative is an African Union that never learns, is never tested, and never solves regional problem.

First and foremost on the list of blame should have been criticism of the African Union. The fact that the African Union (AUF) nor is advisory panel of experienced experts (African Chiefs of Defense Staff) was not even mentioned suggests some are chock full of opinions about the UN before learning details on what is really happening.

America also has a serious problem. If one did not even know of he African Union, then how could one really understand what is happening in Darfur? One could say the UN is not kicking African Union ass. But that assumes one even knows what the African Union is.

Try, try again from The Economist of 11 July 2002.