Technology that sucks ... big time.

Nic Name · 07-31-2002, 11:28 PM

From the great minds at accenture >

A prototype from Accenture Technology Labs, to help individuals who forget names when being introduced to people in a crowd, is seen in this undated photo. The computer continually keeps the last 60 seconds of conversation in its memory, and when prompted with the words "Nice to meet you" will permanently store the last 10 seconds and the next five seconds of conversation for future reference. (AP Photo/Accenture Technology Labs)

Nice to meet you. My name is Andersen.

That Guy · 08-01-2002, 07:38 AM

I've always had that problem, but I use a different technology:

Call me a neanderthal, if you please, but it works for me.

Nic Name · 08-01-2002, 09:08 AM

It's sort of a colostomy for people with shit for brains.

MaggieL · 08-01-2002, 09:21 AM

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Meanwhile, that little video camera on your handheld can recognize any face it has studied in a couple of seconds. Your pocket computer will know who you're talking to, even if this is a face in crowd. It will know when you last spoke with that person; and almost anything else you care to know.

Big Jim Farley was a New York Tammany Hall politician whose success was partly due to the "Farleyfile": a collection of facts about everyone he ever met. If you went to see Big Jim, by the time you got into his office he knew your name, your birthday, the names of your spouse and children, and what you liked for lunch. It was all on file. Today's small computers can do that, plus recognizing the person so you don't need a secretary to do it for you.
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http://www.jerrypournelle.com/report...originals.html

Undertoad · 08-01-2002, 09:25 AM

I actually need this device. Within 1 second of being introduced to anyone, their name is gone from my head, completely and totally erased. Even when reminded over and over again I can't remember. It offends people and is utterly inappropriate in many cases...

Nic Name · 08-01-2002, 09:45 AM

But you never forget a username.

Undertoad · 08-01-2002, 10:08 AM

Well that's true! I think we process written information very differently from oral information. Once I see a name written down, I remember it.

Tobiasly · 08-01-2002, 10:09 AM

I'm right there with you UT. No matter how much I try to train myself to remember someone's name, I'll never learn. I recently moved to a new subdivision.. I have met many of my new neighbors, but I only remember one name, and that's because it turns out my fiancee used to work with him and she told me like a dozen times before I remembered.

Where can I order one, Nic?

Griff · 08-01-2002, 10:46 AM

Tob, you may want to try a pen and 3x5 card first. It might save you a couple bucks. I'm not sure which would get the loon label slapped on you quicker though. I solved the problem by marrying someone with both short and long term memory, but that could be seen as an extreme measure as well.

Tobiasly · 08-01-2002, 12:12 PM

The problem is that I have to remember that I have the problem at the moment someone tells me their name. If I could remember to write it down on a 3x5, I could remember to do some sort of name-association trick or whatever.

It's not so much that I bad memory. Once I know someone's name, I don't forget it. But when my brain hears a name, it thinks "oh, that's nice" instead of "OK, $name = Bob". As UT said, within a matter of seconds, the data is just gone.

Undertoad · 08-01-2002, 12:22 PM

Yeah, it almost feels hard-wired. Sometimes my spouse will remind me of the names of people we are about to see at an event, and that even only helps a little. It doesn't apply to other memory things, either; I can remember names of other things, short-term and long-term... it's just something weird about people.

The fact that I'm borderline social phobic doesn't help, or may be related to the problem, I dunno.

That Guy · 08-01-2002, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nic Name
It's sort of a colostomy for people with shit for brains.

Good one!

Nic Name · 08-02-2002, 09:54 PM

It's a standard refillable lighter about 4" tall, with 4-function calculator,
multi-alarm clock, two time zones and stopwatch. It lasted all of one season
in Casio's 1980 line. Retail: $89.95.

Most users of this thing are gone now, too.

PocketCalculatorShow.com

MaggieL · 08-02-2002, 11:59 PM

Now, my Secret Lust From The Past was this puppy from Hwelett-Packard back in 1977. I actually met somebody who owned one, and died of envy for many days thereafter.

I'm subject to the same "immediate name erasure" syndrome as Tony is...but to make matters worse I can't do mental artithmetic to save my life. (And since I'm a private pilot I can imagine situations in which being able to do mental arithmetic might save my life.) Oh, well.

So I eventually owned a series of Casio "Data Bank" watches until I actualy got a Palm Pilot. None of which had the pure sex appeal of this (admittedly very butch-looking) bit of mid-Seventies high-tech. My first computer (first one I owned as opposed to first one I programmed) was of the same vintage..an 8-bit Z-80 at 2MHz with 16k of memory.

A lot of folks are gonna say "Calculator watch, big deal." But
read about the tricks this "primitive" gadget was able to do...especially date arithmetic and dynamic calculations. Six chips and three batteries in there. This technology only sucked because it was insanely expensive.

headsplice · 08-05-2002, 08:35 AM

I use my Palm

07-31-2002, 11:28 PM	#1
Nic Name retired Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,930	Technology that sucks ... big time. From the great minds at accenture > A prototype from Accenture Technology Labs, to help individuals who forget names when being introduced to people in a crowd, is seen in this undated photo. The computer continually keeps the last 60 seconds of conversation in its memory, and when prompted with the words "Nice to meet you" will permanently store the last 10 seconds and the next five seconds of conversation for future reference. (AP Photo/Accenture Technology Labs) Nice to meet you. My name is Andersen.

08-01-2002, 09:21 AM	#4
MaggieL in the Hour of Scampering Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Jeffersonville PA (15 mi NW of Philadelphia) Posts: 4,060	<blockquote> Meanwhile, that little video camera on your handheld can recognize any face it has studied in a couple of seconds. Your pocket computer will know who you're talking to, even if this is a face in crowd. It will know when you last spoke with that person; and almost anything else you care to know. Big Jim Farley was a New York Tammany Hall politician whose success was partly due to the "Farleyfile": a collection of facts about everyone he ever met. If you went to see Big Jim, by the time you got into his office he knew your name, your birthday, the names of your spouse and children, and what you liked for lunch. It was all on file. Today's small computers can do that, plus recognizing the person so you don't need a secretary to do it for you. </blockquote> http://www.jerrypournelle.com/report...originals.html __________________ "Neither can his Mind be thought to be in Tune,whose words do jarre; nor his reason In frame, whose sentence is preposterous..."

08-01-2002, 10:46 AM	#9
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	Tob, you may want to try a pen and 3x5 card first. It might save you a couple bucks. I'm not sure which would get the loon label slapped on you quicker though. I solved the problem by marrying someone with both short and long term memory, but that could be seen as an extreme measure as well. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

08-01-2002, 12:12 PM	#10
Tobiasly hot Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Jeffersonville, IN (near Louisville) Posts: 892	The problem is that I have to remember that I have the problem <B>at the moment</B> someone tells me their name. If I could remember to write it down on a 3x5, I could remember to do some sort of name-association trick or whatever. It's not so much that I bad memory. Once I know someone's name, I don't forget it. But when my brain hears a name, it thinks "oh, that's nice" instead of "OK, $name = Bob". As UT said, within a matter of seconds, the data is just gone.

08-02-2002, 09:54 PM	#13
Nic Name retired Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,930	Casio QL-10 Combination Cigarette Lighter/Calculator It's a standard refillable lighter about 4" tall, with 4-function calculator, multi-alarm clock, two time zones and stopwatch. It lasted all of one season in Casio's 1980 line. Retail: $89.95. Most users of this thing are gone now, too. PocketCalculatorShow.com

08-01-2002, 07:38 AM	#2
That Guy He who reads, sometimes writes. Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: at the keyboard Posts: 791	I've always had that problem, but I use a different technology: Call me a neanderthal, if you please, but it works for me.

08-01-2002, 09:08 AM	#3
Nic Name retired Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,930	It's sort of a colostomy for people with shit for brains.

08-01-2002, 09:25 AM	#5
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	I actually need this device. Within 1 second of being introduced to anyone, their name is gone from my head, completely and totally erased. Even when reminded over and over again I can't remember. It offends people and is utterly inappropriate in many cases...

08-01-2002, 09:45 AM	#6
Nic Name retired Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,930	But you never forget a username.

08-01-2002, 10:08 AM	#7
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Well that's true! I think we process written information very differently from oral information. Once I see a name written down, I remember it.

08-01-2002, 10:09 AM	#8
Tobiasly hot Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Jeffersonville, IN (near Louisville) Posts: 892	I'm right there with you UT. No matter how much I try to train myself to remember someone's name, I'll never learn. I recently moved to a new subdivision.. I have met many of my new neighbors, but I only remember one name, and that's because it turns out my fiancee used to work with him and she told me like a dozen times before I remembered. Where can I order one, Nic?

08-01-2002, 12:22 PM	#11
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Yeah, it almost feels hard-wired. Sometimes my spouse will remind me of the names of people we are about to see at an event, and that even only helps a little. It doesn't apply to other memory things, either; I can remember names of other things, short-term and long-term... it's just something weird about people. The fact that I'm borderline social phobic doesn't help, or may be related to the problem, I dunno.

08-02-2002, 11:59 PM	#14
MaggieL in the Hour of Scampering Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Jeffersonville PA (15 mi NW of Philadelphia) Posts: 4,060	Now, <b>my</b> Secret Lust From The Past was this puppy from Hwelett-Packard back in 1977. I actually met somebody who owned one, and died of envy for many days thereafter. I'm subject to the same "immediate name erasure" syndrome as Tony is...but to make matters worse I can't do mental artithmetic to save my life. (And since I'm a private pilot I can imagine situations in which being able to do mental arithmetic <i> might</i> save my life.) Oh, well. So I eventually owned a series of Casio "Data Bank" watches until I actualy got a Palm Pilot. None of which had the pure sex appeal of this (admittedly very butch-looking) bit of mid-Seventies high-tech. My first computer (first one I <i>owned</i> as opposed to first one I <i>programmed</i>) was of the same vintage..an 8-bit Z-80 at 2MHz with 16k of memory. A lot of folks are gonna say "Calculator watch, big deal." But read about the tricks this "primitive" gadget was able to do...especially date arithmetic and dynamic calculations. Six chips and three batteries in there. This technology only sucked because it was insanely expensive. __________________ "Neither can his Mind be thought to be in Tune,whose words do jarre; nor his reason In frame, whose sentence is preposterous..."

08-05-2002, 08:35 AM	#15
headsplice Relaxed Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 676	I use my Palm Attached Images __________________ Don't Panic

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