Advice Requested

Dagney · 07-20-2004, 11:03 AM

A friend of mine has discovered that a friend of hers has a pit bull that has been brutalized while in the care of a room mate (The friend was out of town overnight, and came home to find the animal in a very sad shape) - this poor creature has had a leg broken, been stabbed, and has been burnt with a clothing iron. (And that's just the beginning, there has been a lot more torture that we know we don't know about) It is the Vets opinion that the dog should be put to sleep, due to the fact that he's so traumatized, and has very little chance of being saved even with extremely heroic medical measures.

The friend lives in Texas, and this is where the abuse occurred. (We're trying to get pictures to support our case).

I know we have a few resident Texans on board, and I was wondering if they would be able to tell me of whom we could contact in Texas to report this abuse.

The dog is currently in Pennsylvania (the friend drove all night to get the dog away from the abusive situation, and to a vet that he trusts), but we are concerned that contacting the SPCA here would put the friend into a situation where he is considered suspect for the abuse.

xoxoxoBruce · 07-20-2004, 11:29 AM

I think the best way to go is euthanasia.

Then attend to the dog. Where in Texas, Dag?

Beestie · 07-20-2004, 11:30 AM

I'd call the police where the abuse ocurred. Animal cruelty is very against the law.

Dagney · 07-20-2004, 11:31 AM

I'm not sure where in Texas...(friend is out of the office at the moment)

My proposal is to euthanize the dog...than inflict the same abuse on the asshole(s) that did this to the dog.

But not give THEM the benefit of euthanasia.

Elspode · 07-20-2004, 12:35 PM

I think this has to be reported and the responsible individual punished to the full extent of the law.

Surely the friend can come up with some sort of evidence to support the allegations against the other party?

Dagney · 07-20-2004, 02:50 PM

We're taking pictures today (and no, I don't think I'll be posting them here), and a friend of the son of the monster who did it has already called Animal Control/SPCA in Houston where this happened.

I'll let you know what transpires.

Rascal crossed the rainbow bridge this afternoon

I don't know if I should be more sad, or infuriated.

LabRat · 07-20-2004, 03:01 PM

my sincere sympathy for the dogs owner, and wishes for punishment to the fullest extent for the perpetrator.

dar512 · 07-20-2004, 04:57 PM

One person, we'll call them dog-owner, rooms with another person, we'll call them raving-maniac. While dog-owner is out of town, raving-maniac does a slice and dice on the poor dog. Have I got that right?

This may be a topic for another thread, but how is it that dog-owner rooms with raving-maniac and has no clue that raving-maniac is, well, a raving maniac?

Dagney · 07-20-2004, 05:58 PM

You've got that right.

Dog owner has not lived with raving maniac for all that long (and no longer shares the space under the same roof with raving maniac). Has never known Raving Maniac to lose touch with reality, control of anger, or even have the slightest possibilty of becoming the person that he has.

Dog owner has also just recently moved to the area (Texas) and was staying with a Friend of a friend (someone doing him a favor, as he's down on his luck, and really just needed a place to stay until he could find a job). Sad thing is, DO was going to have his own Dog Friendly apartment 8/1.

Sun_Sparkz · 07-20-2004, 08:47 PM

urgh! this is one thing that really gets me revved up. what goes around comes around, I hope this pathetic excuse of a human feels the full extent of the law and of karmic law from the repercussions of that abuse, torture and mutilation to the poor little dog. I hope the authorities throw the book at him. Personally I would not have been able to stop myself from getting violent with him there and then when I found the dog.

What did the dog owner do when they found out it happened? just bolt to the vet in another state?

Nothing deserves to be treated like that, my most positive of energies today will be concentrated on the spirit of this dog, its owner and every other abused animal out there.

Trilby · 07-20-2004, 08:55 PM

Bless you, Sun Sparkz. This is indeed a sad situation. I think it's been said before here on another forum-we are supposed to be the steward's of animal welfare here on earth. Did this guy snap, as in psychotic break? People who have no qualms about inflicting pain/injury/murder on animals ususally don't have any qualms about doing the same to human beings. Jeffery Dahmer started out torturing animals. This guy bears close watching.

bluesdave · 07-20-2004, 11:34 PM

The great thing about domestic animals (especially dogs, cats and some birds), is they give us unconditional love and trust. Just imagine what that poor dog must have been thinking. The puzzlement at why it was being treated so. This is such a sad story.

Sun_Sparkz · 07-20-2004, 11:44 PM

This has got me thinking, if the vet is aware of the abuse, doesn't he have a legal liability to report it to the authorities.

I mean if a doctor or school teacher finds out a child is being abused - they have to report it right? Well do Vets have the same onus on them?

bluesdave · 07-21-2004, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Sun_Sparkz

This has got me thinking, if the vet is aware of the abuse, doesn't he have a legal liability to report it to the authorities.

I mean if a doctor or school teacher finds out a child is being abused - they have to report it right? Well do Vets have the same onus on them?

There was something about this on TV only a few days ago. Someone was lobbying that vets should be operating under a similar law to doctors. Apparently at the moment they are not obliged to report mistreatment of animals (in NSW), although they can report it to the RSPCA if they wish to.

Sun_Sparkz · 07-21-2004, 12:23 AM

See thats ridiculous! Of course they should be legally bound to report it! It's not like animals can repot their owners like kids can sometimes report their parents (i say this loosely).

Perhaps they are concerned with tarnishing their name if they report a false alarm or something, but i mean, so what! if it saves even one animals suffering it would be all worth it!

hmm.. i'm going to look into this.

07-20-2004, 11:03 AM	#1
Dagney The Prodigal Brat Returneth Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: North Cackalacky Posts: 1,107	Advice Requested A friend of mine has discovered that a friend of hers has a pit bull that has been brutalized while in the care of a room mate (The friend was out of town overnight, and came home to find the animal in a very sad shape) - this poor creature has had a leg broken, been stabbed, and has been burnt with a clothing iron. (And that's just the beginning, there has been a lot more torture that we know we don't know about) It is the Vets opinion that the dog should be put to sleep, due to the fact that he's so traumatized, and has very little chance of being saved even with extremely heroic medical measures. The friend lives in Texas, and this is where the abuse occurred. (We're trying to get pictures to support our case). I know we have a few resident Texans on board, and I was wondering if they would be able to tell me of whom we could contact in Texas to report this abuse. The dog is currently in Pennsylvania (the friend drove all night to get the dog away from the abusive situation, and to a vet that he trusts), but we are concerned that contacting the SPCA here would put the friend into a situation where he is considered suspect for the abuse. __________________ The Constitution gives every American the right to make a total fool out of himself. But that doesn't mean you need to.

07-20-2004, 11:29 AM	#2
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	I think the best way to go is euthanasia. Then attend to the dog. Where in Texas, Dag? __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

07-20-2004, 11:30 AM	#3
Beestie -◊\|≡·∙■·∙≡\|◊- Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Parts unknown. Posts: 4,081	I'd call the police where the abuse ocurred. Animal cruelty is very against the law. __________________ ♠ ♥ ♣ ♦

07-20-2004, 11:31 AM	#4
Dagney The Prodigal Brat Returneth Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: North Cackalacky Posts: 1,107	I'm not sure where in Texas...(friend is out of the office at the moment) My proposal is to euthanize the dog...than inflict the same abuse on the asshole(s) that did this to the dog. But not give THEM the benefit of euthanasia. __________________ The Constitution gives every American the right to make a total fool out of himself. But that doesn't mean you need to.

07-20-2004, 12:35 PM	#5
Elspode When Do I Get Virtual Unreality? Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Raytown, Missouri Posts: 12,719	I think this has to be reported and the responsible individual punished to the full extent of the law. Surely the friend can come up with some sort of evidence to support the allegations against the other party? __________________ "To those of you who are wearing ties, I think my dad would appreciate it if you took them off." - Robert Moog

07-20-2004, 02:50 PM	#6
Dagney The Prodigal Brat Returneth Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: North Cackalacky Posts: 1,107	We're taking pictures today (and no, I don't think I'll be posting them here), and a friend of the son of the monster who did it has already called Animal Control/SPCA in Houston where this happened. I'll let you know what transpires. Rascal crossed the rainbow bridge this afternoon I don't know if I should be more sad, or infuriated. __________________ The Constitution gives every American the right to make a total fool out of himself. But that doesn't mean you need to. Last edited by Dagney; 07-20-2004 at 02:51 PM. Reason: Additional information

07-20-2004, 03:01 PM	#7
LabRat twatfaced two legged bumhole Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,143	my sincere sympathy for the dogs owner, and wishes for punishment to the fullest extent for the perpetrator. __________________ Strength does not come from how much weight you can lift, or how many miles you can run. It comes from knowing that you set a goal, and rose to the challenge. Strength comes from within.

07-20-2004, 04:57 PM	#8
dar512 dar512 is now Pete Zicato Join Date: May 2003 Location: Chicago suburb Posts: 4,968	One person, we'll call them dog-owner, rooms with another person, we'll call them raving-maniac. While dog-owner is out of town, raving-maniac does a slice and dice on the poor dog. Have I got that right? This may be a topic for another thread, but how is it that dog-owner rooms with raving-maniac and has no clue that raving-maniac is, well, a raving maniac?

07-20-2004, 05:58 PM	#9
Dagney The Prodigal Brat Returneth Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: North Cackalacky Posts: 1,107	You've got that right. Dog owner has not lived with raving maniac for all that long (and no longer shares the space under the same roof with raving maniac). Has never known Raving Maniac to lose touch with reality, control of anger, or even have the slightest possibilty of becoming the person that he has. Dog owner has also just recently moved to the area (Texas) and was staying with a Friend of a friend (someone doing him a favor, as he's down on his luck, and really just needed a place to stay until he could find a job). Sad thing is, DO was going to have his own Dog Friendly apartment 8/1. __________________ The Constitution gives every American the right to make a total fool out of himself. But that doesn't mean you need to.

07-20-2004, 08:47 PM	#10
Sun_Sparkz Has Body Temperature Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: I come from a land downunder Posts: 1,105	urgh! this is one thing that really gets me revved up. what goes around comes around, I hope this pathetic excuse of a human feels the full extent of the law and of karmic law from the repercussions of that abuse, torture and mutilation to the poor little dog. I hope the authorities throw the book at him. Personally I would not have been able to stop myself from getting violent with him there and then when I found the dog. What did the dog owner do when they found out it happened? just bolt to the vet in another state? Nothing deserves to be treated like that, my most positive of energies today will be concentrated on the spirit of this dog, its owner and every other abused animal out there. __________________ We'll never be as young as we are right now

07-20-2004, 08:55 PM	#11
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	Bless you, Sun Sparkz. This is indeed a sad situation. I think it's been said before here on another forum-we are supposed to be the steward's of animal welfare here on earth. Did this guy snap, as in psychotic break? People who have no qualms about inflicting pain/injury/murder on animals ususally don't have any qualms about doing the same to human beings. Jeffery Dahmer started out torturing animals. This guy bears close watching.

07-20-2004, 11:34 PM	#12
bluesdave Getting older every day Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 308	The great thing about domestic animals (especially dogs, cats and some birds), is they give us unconditional love and trust. Just imagine what that poor dog must have been thinking. The puzzlement at why it was being treated so. This is such a sad story. __________________ History is a great teacher; it is a shame that people never learn from it.

07-20-2004, 11:44 PM	#13
Sun_Sparkz Has Body Temperature Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: I come from a land downunder Posts: 1,105	This has got me thinking, if the vet is aware of the abuse, doesn't he have a legal liability to report it to the authorities. I mean if a doctor or school teacher finds out a child is being abused - they have to report it right? Well do Vets have the same onus on them? __________________ We'll never be as young as we are right now

07-21-2004, 12:23 AM	#15
Sun_Sparkz Has Body Temperature Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: I come from a land downunder Posts: 1,105	See thats ridiculous! Of course they should be legally bound to report it! It's not like animals can repot their owners like kids can sometimes report their parents (i say this loosely). Perhaps they are concerned with tarnishing their name if they report a false alarm or something, but i mean, so what! if it saves even one animals suffering it would be all worth it! hmm.. i'm going to look into this. __________________ We'll never be as young as we are right now

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