You Can't Prove You Exist

Flint · 06-15-2007, 10:36 AM

You can't prove to me that you exist. Don't even bother, it's impossible.

Beestie · 06-15-2007, 10:41 AM

You can't prove I don't.

Flint · 06-15-2007, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Beestie

You can't prove I don't.

It's generally assumed that you do. I'm questioning that assumption, not commenting on the chances that the opposite is true.

glatt · 06-15-2007, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Flint

Don't even bother

OK

Flint · 06-15-2007, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Flint

Don't even bother

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Originally Posted by glatt

OK

By acknowledging your attempt not to bother, you implicitly legitimze your subconscious desire to bother.

Rexmons · 06-15-2007, 10:53 AM

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An eccentric philosophy professor gave a one question final
exam after an entire semester dealing with a broad array of
topics.

The class was already seated and ready to go when the
professor picked up his chair, plopped it on his desk and
wrote on the board: "Using everything we have learned this
semester, prove that this chair does not exist."

Fingers flew, erasers erased, notebooks were filled in furious
fashion. Some students wrote over 30 pages in one hour
attempting to refute the existence of the chair.

One member of the class however, was up and finished in
less than a minute.

Weeks later when the grades were posted, the rest of the
group wondered how he could have gotten an A when he had
barely written anything at all.

They found his answer consisted of two words: "What chair?"

glatt · 06-15-2007, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Flint

By acknowledging your attempt not to bother, you implicitly legitimze your subconscious desire to bother.

You said "don't even bother" not "don't want to bother." Part of me wants to bother, but I see the futility, so I won't bother.

Oh, and who's words are you reading right now?

Shit! I attempted to convince you I exist. Damnit!

Spexxvet · 06-15-2007, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Flint

You can't prove to me that you exist. Don't even bother, it's impossible.

To whom are you addressing this?

Happy Monkey · 06-15-2007, 11:02 AM

I can prove I exist, but only to myself, not to you.

In fact, it is the only provable thing there is.

Flint · 06-15-2007, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet

To whom are you addressing this?

Well, I'm the only one present. If my boss walks in, this window goes away.

BigV · 06-15-2007, 11:03 AM

And yet you keep talking to me.

You keep creating those threads.

You keep listening for me to reply.

Your refusal to accept the proof does not negate the proof.

Besides, I don't exist. How's that possible?

Flint · 06-15-2007, 11:07 AM

I am neither talking nor listening.

Beestie · 06-15-2007, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

I can prove I exist, but only to myself, not to you.

In fact, it is the only provable thing there is.

I wrote and erased a reply saying basically that proof itself is delusion. You seem to feel otherwise. How does one go about proving one's own existance.

Flint · 06-15-2007, 11:14 AM

Does proof require a concrete statement of the conditions that are to be met, therefore a total knowledge of the subject under consideration, therefore an impossible omniscience; in other words, is proof impossible? If we attempt proof of a limited data set, do we ignore the interrelationships it has with it's surroundings?

Happy Monkey · 06-15-2007, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Beestie

I wrote and erased a reply saying basically that proof itself is delusion. You seem to feel otherwise. How does one go about proving one's own existance.

If existance is a delusion, then I am the deluded thing.

06-15-2007, 10:36 AM	#1
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	You Can't Prove You Exist You can't prove to me that you exist. Don't even bother, it's impossible. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

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06-15-2007, 11:03 AM	#11
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	And yet you keep talking to me. You keep creating those threads. You keep listening for me to reply. Your refusal to accept the proof does not negate the proof. Besides, I don't exist. How's that possible? __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

06-15-2007, 11:07 AM	#12
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	I am neither talking nor listening. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

06-15-2007, 11:14 AM	#14
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	Does proof require a concrete statement of the conditions that are to be met, therefore a total knowledge of the subject under consideration, therefore an impossible omniscience; in other words, is proof impossible? If we attempt proof of a limited data set, do we ignore the interrelationships it has with it's surroundings? __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

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