No More Police Protection.

classicman · 08-25-2010, 01:13 PM

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Budget cuts are forcing police around the country to stop responding to fraud, burglary and theft calls as officers focus limited resources on violent crime.

Cutbacks in such places as Oakland, Tulsa and Norton, Mass. have forced police to tell residents to file their own reports — online or in writing — for break-ins and other lesser crimes.

"If you come home to find your house burglarized and you call, we're not coming," said Oakland Police spokeswoman Holly Joshi. The city laid off 80 officers from its force of 687 last month and the department can't respond to burglary, vandalism, and identity theft. "It's amazing. It's a big change for us."

From USA Today
Guess its time to arm up, if you already haven't.

I also noticed they didn't mention speed traps nor minor drug offenses. Perhaps they are the moneymakers.

glatt · 08-25-2010, 01:17 PM

the force has gone from 687 down to 607 and they are now saying they can't do their jobs? That's complete bullshit. Put the donuts down and get back to work, slackers. They could start by transitioning the spokeswoman to street duty.

Lamplighter · 08-25-2010, 01:59 PM

When budget election times come, government officials often...
(No, very often)
(No, almost always)
(No, always)
identify the budget cuts as police, fire, water/sewage, and football.

Our city does that, but then continues to give the local Chamber of Commerce over $100 K each year. And coincidentally the CofC takes credit for putting up flower baskets each summer on the street lights in the business area.

No, I'm not the least bit cynical.

Gravdigr · 08-25-2010, 04:15 PM

Okay, folks. Get ready for the massive influx of criminals to Oakland, Tulsa, and, of course, Norton, Mass.

Spexxvet · 08-25-2010, 04:22 PM

Especially Norton, Mass.

The thread title is misleading - the police will still protect you as they have in the past, they just won't hold your hand for the little things. Classic may be right, arm yourself to protect yourself from fraud, burglary and theft. Or pay for private security. Or pay more taxes. Any way you look at it, you'll be paying more.

spudcon · 08-25-2010, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet

Especially Norton, Mass.
Any way you look at it, you'll be paying more.

But your taxes will not go up one dime.

wolf · 08-25-2010, 05:59 PM

The police aren't under any legal obligation to protect you.

DeShaney v. Winnebago County Social Services (Supreme Court)

Castle Rock v. Gonzalez (Supreme Court)

Pinder v. Johnson (4th Circuit)

Warren v. District of Columbia (DC Appeals Court)

Clodfobble · 08-25-2010, 06:48 PM

If there's no more police protection, there are going to be a lot more little baby policemen running around, I can tell you that.

xoxoxoBruce · 08-25-2010, 07:09 PM

Cut that out, this is serious internet problem solving.

wolf · 08-25-2010, 07:45 PM

One of the benefits of living next door to the police station is that they'll come right on over for every little thing. Especially if the little thing you call them about at 0300 is that their unmarked is in the parking lot with the pursuit lights running and nobody in it.

Spexxvet · 08-26-2010, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by spudcon

But your taxes will not go up one dime.

That's important. After all, the $50 more in taxes is worth much more than the $hundreds that a gun and ammo will cost, or the $thousands you'll pay for private security.

xoxoxoBruce · 08-26-2010, 07:52 AM

Double the police force and they still won't protect you, they only try to catch the perp after the fact. You still need to protect yourself, if you don't want to be a victim.

lookout123 · 08-26-2010, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet

That's important. After all, the $50 more in taxes is worth much more than the $hundreds that a gun and ammo will cost, or the $thousands you'll pay for private security.

The hundreds (or thousands) for guns and ammo give you the ability to actually prevent or stop a crime rather than waiting for a cop to ask what has already happened to you.

Always remember that when seconds matter, the cops are only minutes away.

classicman · 08-26-2010, 11:52 AM

lookout - thanks for explaining the pro-active approach to problem solving.

08-26-2010, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman

lookout - thanks for explaining the pro-active approach to problem solving.

And I thought that community policing programs and community crime prevention programs were pro-active approaches to problem soving...all of which face funding shortgages.

Silly me...having a gun makes one pro-active.

08-25-2010, 04:15 PM	#4
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08-25-2010, 04:22 PM	#5
Spexxvet Makes some feel uncomfortable Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 10,346	Especially Norton, Mass. The thread title is misleading - the police will still protect you as they have in the past, they just won't hold your hand for the little things. Classic may be right, arm yourself to protect yourself from fraud, burglary and theft. Or pay for private security. Or pay more taxes. Any way you look at it, you'll be paying more. __________________ "I'm certainly free, nay compelled, to spread the gospel of Spex. " - xoxoxoBruce

08-25-2010, 05:59 PM	#7
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	The police aren't under any legal obligation to protect you. DeShaney v. Winnebago County Social Services (Supreme Court) Castle Rock v. Gonzalez (Supreme Court) Pinder v. Johnson (4th Circuit) Warren v. District of Columbia (DC Appeals Court) __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

08-25-2010, 06:48 PM	#8
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08-25-2010, 07:09 PM	#9
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Cut that out, this is serious internet problem solving. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

08-25-2010, 01:17 PM	#2
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	the force has gone from 687 down to 607 and they are now saying they can't do their jobs? That's complete bullshit. Put the donuts down and get back to work, slackers. They could start by transitioning the spokeswoman to street duty.

08-25-2010, 01:59 PM	#3
Lamplighter Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Bottom lands of the Missoula floods Posts: 6,402	When budget election times come, government officials often... (No, very often) (No, almost always) (No, always) identify the budget cuts as police, fire, water/sewage, and football. Our city does that, but then continues to give the local Chamber of Commerce over $100 K each year. And coincidentally the CofC takes credit for putting up flower baskets each summer on the street lights in the business area. No, I'm not the least bit cynical.

08-25-2010, 07:45 PM	#10
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	One of the benefits of living next door to the police station is that they'll come right on over for every little thing. Especially if the little thing you call them about at 0300 is that their unmarked is in the parking lot with the pursuit lights running and nobody in it. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

08-26-2010, 07:52 AM	#12
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Double the police force and they still won't protect you, they only try to catch the perp after the fact. You still need to protect yourself, if you don't want to be a victim. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

08-26-2010, 11:52 AM	#14
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	lookout - thanks for explaining the pro-active approach to problem solving. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

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