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"Hail to the Lion" - Philly Inquirer
So little has been posted here of an event that, well, the headline on the front page of the Philadelphia Inquirer on Monday, 23 Jan 2012 was about 3 inches (7 cm) high. It read "Lion at Rest". The entire front page, the entire sports page, and another 13 pages were nothing but articles about Joe Paterno. Why would a football coach deserve so much honor? Because Paterno was about more than just football. Paterno set a standard that no one need even define. In his modesty, Joe would have preferred it that way.
Paterno was so modest as to make no effort to defend himself. He only said he wish he had done more. He did not have to. He did everything required of a man who only had one hearsay accusation. And who reported same to multiple superiors including the man in charge of police. Those superiors, apparently, did a coverup. Protected pedophilia like a pope in Rome. In a tribute to a standing room only crowd, so many spoke in Paterno's behalf. However nobody said it more than Nike's Phil Knight. Whose sympathies lie across the country in Oregon. His statement immediately put everyone up on their feet. Because he finally said what so many have not. Quote:
Shame is that more have not been this vocal. Well, the faculty has so little trust in those trustees as to literally force the trustees to do what they did not want to do. Hire an outsider, Former FBI director Louis J. Freeh, to investigate. Even the faculty did not trust Penn State's trustees to do an honest investigation. You would be hard pressed to find any faculty, alumni, former player, or student that disagrees with Phil Knight. The many did what Paterno did. Remained silent while waiting for the 'powers that be' to do their job. Last edited by tw; 01-27-2012 at 02:43 AM. |
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Thank you, tw. I really appreciate the article and your words, which so eloquently say how I feel on the subject.
My dad and I were talking about it. "Damn shame" was our consensus. |
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Paterno reported the incident in 1998 and the campus police department investigated the allegations
and it was turned over to the state attorney's office. The state attorney's office declined prosecution. Sandusky was force out as a coach in 1999. In 2002, Paterno turned over the allegations again to the head of the campus police dept, Gary Schultz. He repeatedly informed law enforcement of the allegations. After the incident in 2002, Sandusky was banned from their facilities. "Educator, Coach, Humanitarian." RIP Joe Pa.
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Too many have been as modest as Joe. Not point accusing fingers at top management - trustees. Well, the trustees without any investigation decided to fire Joe. Chairman was too timid to fire him. Vice chair John Surma (top executive from a dying US Steel) had an assistant athletic director contact Joe by paper late at night. They did not even have the decency of meeting with a Penn State legend. Of course not. Not one of 32 volunteered to meet with Joe Paterno face to face. They had some tiny intermediate deliver a paper message to Joe Paterno late at night. Then bluntly fired him by phone. Those are ethical leaders? One third of the trustees, surprised by a justified public response, said Joe was fired because he did not report accusations to authorities. Reality - Joe did. The trustees simply did what the emotional do. Made a decision based only on their feelings while ignoring what is always required - hard facts. A characteristic commonly observed in bean counters and lawyers. Who was responsible for providing facts? Kenneth C. Frazier is the chair of the trustee's special investigation committee. We have discussed this lawyer earlier in Destroying American Jobs (ie Kodak). A Vioxx fraud and coverup earned him Merek's CEO. So why did trustees make a decision without honest and obvious facts? A lawyer with a history of getting promoted to CEO by subverting justice did not provide honesty. Trustees were more worried about spin rather than reality. Frazier calls the decision painful. Of course. They were entertaining their emotions. Then he wants empathy for making an emotional decision without facts? Facts such as multiple and previous reports, investigations, and grand jury verdicts that defined many probable coverups. Center County DA Ray Gricar refused to prosecute even when a 1998 grand jury indicted Sandusky. Gricar was the DA when every Sandusky accusation was quashed. Gricar mysteriously disappeared in a possible 2005 murder or suicide in the Susquehanna River. More facts unknown to trustees who could not bother to first learn facts. The NY Times in Penn State’s Trustees Recount Painful Decision to Fire Paterno spent three hours with 13 of those trustees. Quote:
Also on a speaker phone during all this was the PA Governor Tom Corbett. The same Governor who is reaping massive campaign funds by permitting unrestricted fracking. And who has told the many fracking companies that they no longer have to provide drinking water to communities with fracking contaminated drinking water. Why did this Governor also endorse the firing of Joe Paterno without facts? Corbett was state Attorney General in 1995 and again in 2008. As both Attorney General and Governor, he had access to all facts, investigations, and grand jury verdicts. And still did not first learn facts. Garban, the trustee chairman is a long time MBA. A Controller and Treasurer of Penn State for 33 years. With no experience in realities such as education. Another bean counter. Surma, the vice chairman, is a CEO of a diminishing US Steel. His entire history is VP of finance & accounting and chief financial officer. Another bean counter executive without experience in getting the work done. Where the most unethical are bred. Also reported. Surma has an older brother Vic who was a starting Penn State offensive tackle. One semester he lived in a spare bedroom in Sandusky's basement. Kept in touch with his former coach through annual golf outings to benefit The Second Mile. Same organization and bedroom Sandusky used to practice decades of pedophilia. But somehow this was all new to vice chairman John Surma? Well, John Surman should have also fired his brother - also by messenger late at night. But that would be ethical or consistent. Three reasons given by the trustees boil down to one common factor. Joe Paterno did not do what is politically correct. He simply did what was the power of his job, reported only the facts he knew (without speculation), and did what anyone in his position would have done. Paterno reported what he knew immediately to multiple 'powers that be'. Somehow, his modesty (by not publically defending himself) was wrong – according to the trustees. Somehow he was guilty and complicit for not whistle blowing on something he only knew from hearsay? So when a whistle blower identified corrupt bean counters and lawyers, he is persecuted. When a whistle blower does not make accusations based in hearsay, he is persecuted. Only top management is innocent? View who made these decisions. A lawyer whose lying about Vioxx got him a CEO position. A Governor who is reaping massive campaign funds from fracking companies. And plenty of bean counters. People whose history is to get promoted by manipulating spread sheets. Who do not come from where the work gets done and where ethics are learned. Entertaining their emotions and an obvious shortage of ethics is the common factor among trustees and the Governor. So spin blames Paterno who was only a successful and well respected football coach. Easy prey for bean counters and lawyers. Paterno was not using the press to spin his reputation. So he is guilty according to the trustees interviewed by the NY Times? The trustees were spinning half truths about Paterno in the press. Even lying about Joe not reporting pedophilia. The logic used? None. A similar example was Nixon blaming subordinates to avert blame. The powerful spinnning feelings and political spin as if fact. A characteristic common to people who are MBAs, lawyers, and unethical. Finally, Phil Knight said what had to be said. So many knew, were required to act, and choose to do nothing. So the trustees and Governor did not blame any of them. Instead victimized Paterno to protect themselves. Ethics that bean counters and lawyers learn to get promoted – as demonstrated above by examples and citations. |
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BTW, Louis Freeh is a former FBI Director hired by the trustees to report on the actions by the trustees. He was hired when the faculty objected to the trustees investigating themselves. Later learned (about 10 Jan 2012). Freeh's report will be submitted twice to the trustees for editing before it will be released to the public. Then we can all know it is another honest report.
If Paterno had done anything like that, the trustees would have fired him. But then the trustees are well respected lawyers and bean counters. Same type of people who created America’s worst recession in 75 years. Who are complicit in America no longer having the technologies necessary to build iPhones. |
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This is, by far, the most horrendous story. This is all happening in my backyard. I know these people, I know these places. My heart has broken for the disadvantaged boys that thought they were getting a second chance, and ended up exploited, raped, taken advantage of. My heart has broken for the students of a university that was so rich in tradition, and now, the scandal is a black cloud that will be so incredibly difficult to shake. My heart has broken for Joe & Sue Paterno, who, after JoePa's appalling termination, MADE YET ANOTHER DONATION TO THE UNIVERSITY!!!! No one will tell me that JoePa didn't die from a broken heart. I blame the Trustees for that man's death. Truly. There's a cupcake shop in downtown State College, NDulge, that put front window signs up... "JoePa - a special place in Heaven... PSU Trustees - an eternal place in hell." Sums it up about right, eh??
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I think Corbett is more culpable than JoPa. He should have been fired.
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From the front page of the Philadelphia Inquirer on Sunday 29 Jan 2012:
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32 of them and a Governor. Not one could bother to learn facts before making a decision? Not one could apologize for their obvious and tragic mistakes? No public apology means more scars and justified contempt. Literally every organization – alumni, students, faculty – know what the trustees still refuse to admit. Step one to healing is that obvious. They must apologize for making a decision without first learning facts. They must restore the Paterno name to where it belongs. Every day the trustees delay confirms how divorced they are from reality. |
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You just tied Jerry Sandusky to the entire U.S.'s lack of a technological manufacturing base in only four sentences. Well, two sentences and two sentence fragments...
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This is being reported in several places, some with editorial comments.
There are also discussions that Paterno was (indirectly) the basis for this track of communications, but there are several arguing he was not. Ex-Penn State president reportedly OK'd not reporting sex abuse allegations Associated Press via Fox News Published July 01, 2012 Quote:
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