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Old 09-23-2003, 06:01 PM   #1
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Looking for other RPG and MMORPG addicts

Just figured that I would post wondering if any of you other people are into RPG and MMORPG's. I'm an EQPC nut. I love final fantasy. I will be getting final fantasy XI on the PC. Love Diablo. I was just trying to find out if there were other addicts out there. (Since I'm at work and can't play )
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Old 09-24-2003, 11:42 AM   #2
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I'm an RPG addict, but not an MMORPG addict. Wizardry 8 and Neverwinter Nights are the recent RPGs I am playing. I am currently trying to get NWN up and running on Linux.
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Old 09-24-2003, 12:40 PM   #3
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Ex EQ player here. Left shortly after PoP came out. Was an enchanter on Karana (62, 80 or so AA). Was/is really well geared up for not being in a heavy raid guild. Kinda miss some aspects of it, like the people, hitting the new zones, etc. Don't miss the 5-7 hour raids.

Going to see what WoW looks like and might pick that up.
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Old 09-24-2003, 01:19 PM   #4
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I don't allow myself to get involved in those. Too many bad stories, combined with my habit of staying up till 4am playing single player games.
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Old 09-24-2003, 05:38 PM   #5
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I avoid MMORPGs like the plague. Too many flashbacks of watching MUDders in college...

I'll play a good console RPG now and then (Star Ocean 2's still at the top of my list), and played the heck out of Morrowind on my PC until I got tired of the crashes.
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Old 09-24-2003, 05:44 PM   #6
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WUSS!!!

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...played the heck out of Morrowind on my PC until I got tired of the crashes.
You gave up on Morrowind because of the crashes? I played Daggerfall all the way through, despite the incredible number of crashes.

Wait - maybe that's not something to brag about.
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Old 09-24-2003, 06:15 PM   #7
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Ex EQ player here. Left shortly after PoP came out. Was an enchanter on Karana (62, 80 or so AA). Was/is really well geared up for not being in a heavy raid guild. Kinda miss some aspects of it, like the people, hitting the new zones, etc. Don't miss the 5-7 hour raids.

Going to see what WoW looks like and might pick that up.
I used to catogorize myself in the ex EQ player until about 2 months ago. The best friend & her hubby & my BF got to do beta testing for final fantasy XI (online) for the PS2. I'm sitting here thinking - God - this is so much like EQ. And then had to demonstrate to them. Then some of my RL friends conned me into joining their guild. (Which is a very uber un-guild - bunch of friends & their toons goofing off) I've been sucked into it ever since. Its maddening. I'm now a 51 barbarian shaman and loving every minute of it. I mean - I never considered myself to really like MMORPG's - I was a single person - the final fantasys, diablo, warcraft, etc. But ever since these last 2 months of EQ - I'm hooked. Not to the fact that I would leave a child in the car or that I can't set it aside and go out and have some fun or that I'm skipping work to play - but I'm still in love with my game. Luckily - the BF understands. (He's a computer network engineer) So basically we are two computer geeks in love.
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Old 09-25-2003, 02:22 AM   #8
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Ex Diablo 2 Nut, had a level 88 Amazon with the buriza from hell and armour to match....Not to mention my paladin, pity they kept nerfing them.
Played through Neverwinter Nights.
Huge Fallout fan.
Daggerfall got far too painful.
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Old 09-25-2003, 08:44 AM   #9
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Re: WUSS!!!

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You gave up on Morrowind because of the crashes? I played Daggerfall all the way through, despite the incredible number of crashes.

Wait - maybe that's not something to brag about.
Don't get me wrong -- I beat Dagoth Ur with one character, and had a handful of others that mastered almost every guild and fulfilled everything BUT the main quest.

But the expansion packs didn't help. The first major quest in Tribunal (finding the Dark Brotherhood hideout) had a crash bug, where killing the boss would lock you into a text-box loop. I eventually found a workaround for that, but it was irritating.

It seemed as if the more advanced a character became, the more frequent the crashes were. This didn't bode well for Tribunal or (especially) Bloodmoon, because both were made for advanced characters with lots of toys to play with. I got into the first quest in Bloodmoon, talked to the captain of the guards, opened a door and BAM! Crash to desktop. I restarted, got two doors further on my next attempt, and BAM! Crash to desktop. After four or five halting attempts at navigating the building, I said "screw it" and cranked up my PS2.

Morrowind was very cool in that you could learn just about anything if you put your mind (or money) to it... but that was also one of its flaws. The pay-for-training option was probably the killer, in that it allowed you to skip hours and hours of practice by paying piddling sums of money (since money was extremely easy to gather); in a very short time, you could have a demigod with massive skills and abilities that could do anything and kill anything.

The Enchant system was also severely broken when it came to damage (dealing and healing alike). For small stuff (boots of leaping, rings of levitation, summoning items, invisibility, etc.), it was very useful, but it was far too easy to create items that were devastatingly powerful (via paying the Enchanters to do it for you, yet another money problem).

Despite all that, the game was STILL fun, and I restarted a few times to enjoy those first engrossing hours all over again... until the crashes set in. (That, and there's only so many times you can finish the same Thief quests before monotony sets in.)
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Old 09-25-2003, 09:43 AM   #10
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I retract 'WUSS'

Ah. You gave up on replayability. That's more like it.

I had a character who a bug really worked for. Somehow, a bug popped my base Longsword ability over the maximum (I think it was the "Summon Daedric Longsword" spell bug). Apparently, the ability advancement system only checks whether you are equal to the maximum, not greater than or equal to. So once the ibility is over the max, it will continue to rise with use, forever. And it was one of my primary skills. That was pretty fun.

Also, it wasn't really that easy to make tons of money - it was easy to get tons of valuable stuff, but it was incredibly tedious to get tons of money.
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Old 09-25-2003, 10:48 AM   #11
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Also, it wasn't really that easy to make tons of money - it was easy to get tons of valuable stuff, but it was incredibly tedious to get tons of money.
Depends on how irritating you found the Creeper Shuffle to be. Translation:
1) Gather goodies.
2) Recall to Creeper's location.
3) Sell one 5K+ item.
4) Rest for 24 hours.
5) Repeat until goodies are sold.

If you cared about getting full value for your items, yeah, it could get ridiculous at times. (One Ordinator's haul was worth 30K+, with two items that exceeded Creeper's 5K cap and thus required some creative bartering.) Lots of people hacked Creeper to have a 100K max, but I didn't bother doing that. Really, there was no major reason not to -- little (if anything) in the game was time-critical, so cutting out 19 redundant selling days would've been harmless.

Come to think of it... what would've been NEAT would be if Creeper's and other sellers' cash DIDN'T spontaneously recharge daily, or at least not all at once. You could sell lots of items to lots of buyers, leave them with shiny items and no money, and cripple the local cash-based economy. Or enter some generic Pawnbroker's shop and say "This Daedric Katana is worth more than everything you're selling combined. I'll trade it for YOUR STORE." He takes the sword and leaves, and you have a new business...

My favorite shopkeeper trick was nasty as hell -- enchant a piece of armor with Damage Health 1 Point, On Self, Constant Effect. Sell it to Shopkeeper X. Since it's better make than what he had on already, he puts on the armor; wait for a minute or two, watch him drop over dead, and loot the place with no legal repercussions.

I inadvertently ended up doing that with the Mudcrab merchant; I'd sold him a boatload of Daedric weapons, but when a Daedroth appeared on his island and blasted poison at me, the Mudcrab got too close to the crossfire and died. Hey, free weapon cache!

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Old 09-25-2003, 12:56 PM   #12
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Depends on how irritating you found the Creeper Shuffle to be.
Quite irritating. Partially for role-playing purposes (spend 3 weeks bartering with an irritating goblin?), and partly for the subconscious "I'm being cheated" feeling if you break down and sell a daedric weapon for 5000.

By the time I won, Creeper was standing in a massive pile of treasure I was too lazy to sell. It's not like I was hurting for cash, but it always bugged me slightly...

Fallout (and Fallout 2) had a smilar setup, but it wasn't nearly as annoying, for some reason.
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Old 09-29-2003, 08:14 PM   #13
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I found the latest patch to Morrowind a couple of days ago (bringing it to 1.6 something).

I figured I'd give it one more try. I installed the patch, went back to Fort Frostmoth, wandered through the buildings... and crashed to desktop in the first ten minutes, the second time I tried entering the Armory in one game session.

So much for THAT.
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Old 10-06-2003, 08:08 PM   #14
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Morrowind is definitely a great game. I actually play the Xbox version which is much more stable than the PC version (you just have to put up with loading screens all the time). Related question: Did anyone ever complete all of the Morong Tong Missions? They seemed to get really friggin difficult towards the end, especially going after Larrius Vario and that head Telvanni councilor (I forget her name). Just curious.
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Old 10-14-2003, 01:54 PM   #15
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I play Dark Age of Camelot.

My husband used to play EQ but he's a convert to the cause.

My servers (for those of you who play):

Bedevere/Albion (Keeper of the Watch is my guild there...so I'm there most often as one toon or another)

Nimue/Hibernia

Kay/Midgard


PM me if you play on those servers and want to get ahold of me in game.

I'm also an EX-MUDder, a little place called Elusive Dreams. I played religiously, every day for 2.5 years. Started to build, too. Don't go there. Deadly.
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