New programs at the Constitution Center

[richlevy]

If you go to their calendar of events , you can see what they have for the month.

I am going to Our Common Defense: Fact of Fiction on Monday evening.

I also signed up for a 2-day (1.5 day) event at the Constitution Center and Rutgers Camden on Free Speech in Wartime . It's 2 hours on Sunday Jan 16th at the NCC and all of Monday the 17th at Rutgers.

The Common Defense one is $5 for non-members. The Free Speech one is free for everybody, but they require reservations.

I think considering the amount of debate we have here, there should be some people interested in the topic. I've already signed up for both events and I'll be going to the Free Speech event from home, so if anyone wants a ride to the Free Speech event, let me know.

[xoxoxoBruce]

I am going to Our Common Defense: Fact of Fiction on Monday evening.

I also signed up for a 2-day (1.5 day) event at the Constitution Center and Rutgers Camden on Free Speech in Wartime . It's 2 hours on Sunday Jan 16th at the NCC and all of Monday the 17th at Rutgers.

The homeland security file on you is getting thicker.

[Griff]

The National Constitution Center was established by the Constitution Heritage Act of 1988. Passed by Congress and signed by President Ronald Reagan, the Act created the Center as an organization and first established building the National Constitution Center as an important national goal

Is this irony, Ms. Morissette? The National Constitution Center is funded um.. er... unconstitutionaly.

[Undertoad]

That decision is invested in a system of courts by the Constitution.

[Griff]

That power was assumed by the Supreme Court in Marbury vs Madison not granted by the Constitution. It probably should have been explicitly granted but wasn't.

aside- arguing constitutional law with an anarchist is probably gonna yield little fruit of any value.

[Undertoad]

"The judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity, arising under this Constitution" (Article 3 sec. 2) Seems pretty clear.

[richlevy]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

The homeland security file on you is getting thicker.

Well, I might eventually be able to answer a question that has been puzzling me for over a year, do they serve Cuban sandwiches at the mess hall in Guantanamo Bay? I doubt the Muslim residents would appreciate them.

Seriously, the men and women who have given their lives, did not do so for Iraq or GWB, each of them did so to 'protect and defend the Constitution'. I would just like to take the time to explore what that really means.

BTW, UT and Griff, does all of the chatter about Constitutional authority mean that I'll see either of you two there? One of the speakers will be a Federal judge, you can ask him - if you dare.

[Griff]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

"The judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity, arising under this Constitution" (Article 3 sec. 2) Seems pretty clear.

Section 2 - Trial by Jury, Original Jurisdiction, Jury Trials

(The judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity, arising under this Constitution, the Laws of the United States, and Treaties made, or which shall be made, under their Authority; to all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls; to all Cases of admiralty and maritime Jurisdiction; to Controversies to which the United States shall be a Party; to Controversies between two or more States; between a State and Citizens of another State; between Citizens of different States; between Citizens of the same State claiming Lands under Grants of different States, and between a State, or the Citizens thereof, and foreign States, Citizens or Subjects.) (This section in parentheses is modified by Amendment XI.)


The way in which that power was to be exercised and its definition still seem less than clear to me. This section could be read to mean only the facts and application in cases would be judged under the law not that the law itself would judged. So much of our law is built upon M v M that we think of this interpretation as obvious. Of course, my ignorance of the law is profound and I used to spend a lot of time on amateur body chemistry back in my school days...

[Undertoad]

This section could be read to mean only the facts and application in cases would be judged under the law not that the law itself would judged.

Whose job is it to make that decision?

My take on it is: imperfect people make imperfect laws, imperfect judges interpret them, and this is working as designed, despite our instincts to build perfection. Perfection is not possible; we are human.

[Griff]

Truth. Imperfect people also make imperfect constitutions, sorry Radar. If we could only figure out how to distribute power down instead of up without creating fiefdoms of abuse... not gonna happen.

[richlevy]

So, is anyone going? I'm going to the Sunday and Monday events. It's going to be weird going back to college, even for a day.

[Griff]

Too much of a road trip for me, football weekend as well, no it doesn't reflect well on my priorities.

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