Obama has won the nomination

Undertoad · 03-16-2008, 12:39 AM

Play with the Slate Delegate Calculator

http://www.slate.com/features/delegatecounter/

With the knowledge that Obama has polled to win North Carolina, and the FL and MI re-dos are unlikely. Maybe one not both.

She can't win without superdelegates

Ibby · 03-16-2008, 01:05 AM

obama's had the math for nearly a month. hillary simply can not win without, as the saying goes, obama being found in bed with a dead girl or a live boy. Obama knows it; he's more worried about McCain at this point. Hillary's gonna be the last person in the country to realize it, I'll bet.

lumberjim · 03-16-2008, 01:12 AM

vote Ron Paul

even though his minions totally crowded the restaurant we ate ate last weds and made it a crowded and terse sit down instead of a relaxing Din Din with the Fammmm. I didn't hate the Ron Paul party as I can imagine i would have had they been blue blazered pubs or sweater wearing crats. seemed like normal folks.

this could be the perfect storm for a 3rd party to sneak in. or it could be that i dont know what the fugg i speak of. im politically stunted, after all. i smoked all that pot in my developmental years, that i just cant muster a poop about it.

oh well, if it gets too bad, i guess i'll just move out to the country and eat a lot of peaches

smoothmoniker · 03-16-2008, 01:12 AM

How long, you think, before we start to hear about the "Vast Left-Wing Conspiracy" that prevented her from getting the nomination?

lookout123 · 03-16-2008, 03:14 PM

no it is still the vast right wing conspiracy screwing her over. they made her seem shrill. and manipulative. and pro war when it was popular but steadfastly anti war when the polls shifted. and they kept telling people she was a clinton. they conspired to hand the nomination to obama.

obviously a vast right wing conspiracy smear campaign in action...wait, what? oh you mean those were the true things? damn, how did she stay in it this long?

xoxoxoBruce · 03-16-2008, 03:37 PM

So the general election will be the far left vs the far right.... and I'm stuck in the middle with you, and most of the voters.

Cicero · 03-16-2008, 04:14 PM

Just going to say what I've been saying all along...

There is no way the powers that be will ever let a woman get the presidential nomination in this country. No way, no day.....Maybe 200 more years from now...not sure.....Not any time soon. Heh. Not only that...she's blonde. Double trouble. She's an "aggressive female". No one likes that. It's funny to watch Martha get raked over the coals for the same thing. Watching Martha go to jail didn't leave the mark it was supposed to with "aggressive females" I guess........Looks like they are still trying to be powerful and live successful lives. It's an exercise in going everywhere but the absolute top.

Fail.

This is what a female president looks like. This is Corizon Aquino....Heh...Even a second world, catholic country trusts their women before this one.
http://encarta.msn.com/media_7015091...on_aquino.html

glatt · 03-16-2008, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cicero

the powers that be

You mean the voters?

Clodfobble · 03-16-2008, 04:31 PM

Including the women voters. They just hate her because she's a woman too.

jinx · 03-16-2008, 05:50 PM

"No one can clean house like a woman can!" - A Hillary supported I saw on TV

lookout123 · 03-16-2008, 09:19 PM

Quote:

Including the women voters. They just hate her because she's a woman too.

No they hate her because she is Hillary Clinton. Big difference.

classicman · 03-16-2008, 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad

She can't win without superdelegates

Thank goodness! Unfortunately, I'm left not really liking either candidate. She would not have changed this, but I am unhappy with the options......AGAIN.

classicman · 03-16-2008, 09:31 PM

I hate her for HER - nothing to do with her being a woman. I simply find her abrasive, annoying, belligerent and dishonest.

Radar · 03-17-2008, 12:30 AM

I don't "hate" Hillary, but I am certainly not a fan of hers for many of the same reasons. She comes off as a bitch. She keeps mentioning experience as though she's got a lot of it when she's been a Senator for 6 years. Does she think being married to a President makes her more qualified to be one or more experienced at being one?

She has a shady past with dirty and underhanded dealings where the witnesses all died mysteriously.

I don't think she's anymore qualified than Obama, I don't think she's as articulate, intelligent, classy, or witty as Obama. I don't think she belongs in politics at any level including the level she's already at let alone the office of President. She seems like an annoying shrew.

Also, she would have a harder time beating the Republicans than Obama.

glatt · 03-17-2008, 07:22 AM

Except for the "bitch" comment, I agree with everything Radar said.

03-16-2008, 12:39 AM	#1
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Obama has won the nomination Play with the Slate Delegate Calculator http://www.slate.com/features/delegatecounter/ With the knowledge that Obama has polled to win North Carolina, and the FL and MI re-dos are unlikely. Maybe one not both. She can't win without superdelegates

03-16-2008, 01:05 AM	#2
Ibby erika Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: "the high up north" Posts: 6,127	obama's had the math for nearly a month. hillary simply can not win without, as the saying goes, obama being found in bed with a dead girl or a live boy. Obama knows it; he's more worried about McCain at this point. Hillary's gonna be the last person in the country to realize it, I'll bet. __________________ not really back, you didn't see me, i was never here shhhhhh

03-16-2008, 01:12 AM	#3
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	vote Ron Paul even though his minions totally crowded the restaurant we ate ate last weds and made it a crowded and terse sit down instead of a relaxing Din Din with the Fammmm. I didn't hate the Ron Paul party as I can imagine i would have had they been blue blazered pubs or sweater wearing crats. seemed like normal folks. this could be the perfect storm for a 3rd party to sneak in. or it could be that i dont know what the fugg i speak of. im politically stunted, after all. i smoked all that pot in my developmental years, that i just cant muster a poop about it. oh well, if it gets too bad, i guess i'll just move out to the country and eat a lot of peaches __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan Last edited by lumberjim; 03-16-2008 at 01:17 AM.

03-16-2008, 01:12 AM	#4
smoothmoniker to live and die in LA Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 2,090	How long, you think, before we start to hear about the "Vast Left-Wing Conspiracy" that prevented her from getting the nomination? __________________ to live and die in LA

03-16-2008, 03:14 PM	#5
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	no it is still the vast right wing conspiracy screwing her over. they made her seem shrill. and manipulative. and pro war when it was popular but steadfastly anti war when the polls shifted. and they kept telling people she was a clinton. they conspired to hand the nomination to obama. obviously a vast right wing conspiracy smear campaign in action...wait, what? oh you mean those were the true things? damn, how did she stay in it this long? __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

03-16-2008, 03:37 PM	#6
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	So the general election will be the far left vs the far right.... and I'm stuck in the middle with you, and most of the voters. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

03-16-2008, 04:14 PM	#7
Cicero Looking forward to open mic night. Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: New Mexico Posts: 5,148	Just going to say what I've been saying all along... There is no way the powers that be will ever let a woman get the presidential nomination in this country. No way, no day.....Maybe 200 more years from now...not sure.....Not any time soon. Heh. Not only that...she's blonde. Double trouble. She's an "aggressive female". No one likes that. It's funny to watch Martha get raked over the coals for the same thing. Watching Martha go to jail didn't leave the mark it was supposed to with "aggressive females" I guess........Looks like they are still trying to be powerful and live successful lives. It's an exercise in going everywhere but the absolute top. Fail. This is what a female president looks like. This is Corizon Aquino....Heh...Even a second world, catholic country trusts their women before this one. http://encarta.msn.com/media_7015091...on_aquino.html __________________ Show me a sane man, and I will cure him for you.- Carl Jung Last edited by Cicero; 03-16-2008 at 04:19 PM.

03-16-2008, 04:31 PM	#9
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	Including the women voters. They just hate her because she's a woman too.

03-16-2008, 05:50 PM	#10
jinx Come on, cat. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: general vicinity of Philadelphia area Posts: 7,013	"No one can clean house like a woman can!" - A Hillary supported I saw on TV __________________ Crying won't help you, praying won't do you no good.

03-16-2008, 09:31 PM	#13
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	I hate her for HER - nothing to do with her being a woman. I simply find her abrasive, annoying, belligerent and dishonest. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

03-17-2008, 12:30 AM	#14
Radar Constitutional Scholar Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Ocala, FL Posts: 4,006	I don't "hate" Hillary, but I am certainly not a fan of hers for many of the same reasons. She comes off as a bitch. She keeps mentioning experience as though she's got a lot of it when she's been a Senator for 6 years. Does she think being married to a President makes her more qualified to be one or more experienced at being one? She has a shady past with dirty and underhanded dealings where the witnesses all died mysteriously. I don't think she's anymore qualified than Obama, I don't think she's as articulate, intelligent, classy, or witty as Obama. I don't think she belongs in politics at any level including the level she's already at let alone the office of President. She seems like an annoying shrew. Also, she would have a harder time beating the Republicans than Obama. __________________ "I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death." - George Carlin

03-17-2008, 07:22 AM	#15
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	Except for the "bitch" comment, I agree with everything Radar said.

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