Unemployed Intentionally

xoxoxoBruce · 03-08-2010, 11:41 AM

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Former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay says that Sen. Jim Bunning was "brave" for blocking an extension in unemployment benefits.
DeLay subscribes to the notion that people only try to find jobs when their benefits run out.
"There is an argument to be made that these extensions, the unemployment benefits, keep people from going and finding jobs," he told CNN's Candy Crowley Sunday. "In fact there are some studies that have been done that show people stay on unemployment compensation and they don't look for a job until two or three weeks before they know the benefits are going to run out," he argued.
"People are unemployed because they want to be? " asked Crowley.
"Well, it is the truth. And people in the real world know it," said DeLay.
The Senate passed a ten billion dollar stopgap unemployment measure late Tuesday, after including an amendment offered by Sen. Bunning that prevented further deficits.
Ryan Grim noted in The Huffington Post that "unemployment benefits are generally so small that much of it is often used to pay for COBRA health insurance, even when subsidized. The size of the benefits does not generally cover the cost of living and it would be hard to find a single person who would prefer unemployment to having a job so that they could get subsidized COBRA."

OK, all you unemployed people, you've been outed. Now get off your lazy asses and get back to work, 'cause you ain't foolin' Ol Tom Delay.

Bluesky · 03-08-2010, 02:41 PM

I am sure some are slacking but not all. I know people who have used up all the time on UI and even without it have NOT found jobs.

classicman · 03-08-2010, 03:14 PM

I actually know two people who waited till they had about a month left before looking and both got jobs in time. I also know a few more who have not yet. like anything else . . .

xoxoxoBruce · 03-08-2010, 03:19 PM

Most people can't afford to do that, unless their living in Mom's basement. Even two income families are usually stretched so tight loss of one income can ruin them.

classicman · 03-08-2010, 03:39 PM

Yup - no doubt. They fall into the "I also know a few more who have not yet."
category.

lumberjim · 03-08-2010, 04:25 PM

I know two people who could walk in to many places and get a j o b , but choose not to because it's not T H E job.

they both need a kick in the ass. or two.

TheMercenary · 03-08-2010, 07:41 PM

The bigger reality is that they are not being counted in the Obama White House Propaganda.

xoxoxoBruce · 03-08-2010, 08:56 PM

Who's not being counted?

Juniper · 03-08-2010, 10:06 PM

I don't have a job. Don't want one, either.

Pssst: self-employed . . . even if you don't work, it doesn't count.

Cicero · 03-08-2010, 11:21 PM

The general assumption here is that all unemployed are on unemployment......

xoxoxoBruce · 03-08-2010, 11:39 PM

Not at all, as explained here, there are lots of different "unemployment numbers".

TheMercenary · 03-09-2010, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Not at all, as explained here, there are lots of different "unemployment numbers".

But what is reported is just the "good" numbers.

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As regular readers of The Ticker know, we like to hammer on the official U.S. unemployment rate versus the unofficial rate, which we believe to be a truer picture of joblessness in this country.

This morning, the Labor Department said the official number climbed from 9.4 percent in July to 9.7 percent in August.

But the unofficial number jumped from 16.3 percent to 16.8 percent.

The difference between the two rates is due to who's counted among the unemployed.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/eco...l?hpid=topnews

xoxoxoBruce · 03-09-2010, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

But what is reported is just the "good" numbers.

It's the same fucking number they've been reporting for the last 50 years, but now suddenly it's smoke and mirrors?

03-10-2010, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

It's the same fucking number they've been reporting for the last 50 years, but now suddenly it's smoke and mirrors?

You addressed it earlier:

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

He knows better too, just being a dick.

QFT

Bluesky · 03-10-2010, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

It's the same fucking number they've been reporting for the last 50 years, but now suddenly it's smoke and mirrors?

I think right now there are weird ways of counting. If someone is on Fed extensions, they are not in the U3 number (from what I understand) but are counted in the U6 which also includes part time workers who want full time work.
I admit, I could easily be wrong in how I understand it all.

Long, blah blah info here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unemployment

03-08-2010, 03:14 PM	#3
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	I actually know two people who waited till they had about a month left before looking and both got jobs in time. I also know a few more who have not yet. like anything else . . . __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

03-08-2010, 03:19 PM	#4
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Most people can't afford to do that, unless their living in Mom's basement. Even two income families are usually stretched so tight loss of one income can ruin them. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

03-08-2010, 03:39 PM	#5
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Yup - no doubt. They fall into the "I also know a few more who have not yet." category. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

03-08-2010, 04:25 PM	#6
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	I know two people who could walk in to many places and get a j o b , but choose not to because it's not T H E job. they both need a kick in the ass. or two. __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

03-08-2010, 08:56 PM	#8
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Who's not being counted? __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

03-08-2010, 02:41 PM	#2
Bluesky Provocateur Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 9	I am sure some are slacking but not all. I know people who have used up all the time on UI and even without it have NOT found jobs.

03-08-2010, 07:41 PM	#7
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	The bigger reality is that they are not being counted in the Obama White House Propaganda.

03-08-2010, 10:06 PM	#9
Juniper I know, right? Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,539	I don't have a job. Don't want one, either. Pssst: self-employed . . . even if you don't work, it doesn't count.

03-08-2010, 11:21 PM	#10
Cicero Looking forward to open mic night. Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: New Mexico Posts: 5,148	The general assumption here is that all unemployed are on unemployment...... __________________ Show me a sane man, and I will cure him for you.- Carl Jung

03-08-2010, 11:39 PM	#11
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Not at all, as explained here, there are lots of different "unemployment numbers". __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

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