Crossing borders: A musing

monster · 04-13-2011, 09:43 PM

Why is it that the people who want to restrict the influx of foreigners into the US are generally also the ones who support US soldiers being in foreign countries? Sure, the purposes and intended durations are different, but if borders are such an important part of national identity/security, why is it OK for to "violate" others' borders so? And if borders are not an important part of national identity/security, why are we so concerned about them?

Maybe I'm trolling or maybe I have a point? Whichever you think, please keep it nice, thanks

Clodfobble · 04-13-2011, 11:31 PM

I wouldn't point out this parallel to any of them, if I were you. It'll just inspire them to put roadside bombs and snipers along the Rio Grande.

anonymoo · 04-13-2011, 11:34 PM

5of5 here. it seems like you have an immigrant's point of view on borders. there is nothing wrong will legal immigration. what we detest are the illegal immigrants. we welcome you if you do it legally, if you don't you are a criminal. simple

Clodfobble · 04-13-2011, 11:36 PM

Ah, but there must be more to it than that, 5 of 5, unless you also would support any and all measures to make the process of legal immigration easy, inexpensive, and fast.

anonymoo · 04-13-2011, 11:51 PM

why should it be easy, inexpensive, or fast?

Griff · 04-14-2011, 07:12 AM

So the foreign troops can mass quickly.

SamIam · 04-14-2011, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anonymoo

why should it be easy, inexpensive, or fast?

If it's LEGAL, it should be efficient. Why waste even more tax payer money dinking around?

monster · 04-14-2011, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SamIam

If it's LEGAL, it should be efficient. Why waste even more tax payer money dinking around?

It's not the taxpayer's money that's wasted..... oh wait, I do pay taxes. Even though I can't help choose who spends it......

Spexxvet · 04-14-2011, 08:07 AM

OMFG! 5of5 is UG! Now I'll have to put anonymoo on ignore, too.

infinite monkey · 04-14-2011, 08:12 AM

Which one: anonymoo, anonygoo, anonypoo, anonyloo, or anonystew?

SamIam · 04-14-2011, 12:30 PM

Well, US immigrants are not pouring into Afganistan, etc. US soldiers are, however, and the effect is even more detrimental.

What you are forgetting is that the US does not implement policy based on any sort of universal ethic or ideal or even logic. US policy is about whatever political party currently in power thinks is best for itself and its major contributors - to hell with everyone else.

Clodfobble · 04-14-2011, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anonymoo

why should it be easy, inexpensive, or fast?

Why should it be hard, expensive, and slow?

footfootfoot · 04-14-2011, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clodfobble

Why should it be hard, expensive, and slow?

That's the divorce thread

jimhelm · 04-14-2011, 05:29 PM

I gotta say.... this thread has yet to be amusing.

infinite monkey · 04-14-2011, 05:55 PM

Your muse has arrived.

So an immigrant walks into a bar with a parrot on his shoulder...

I got nuttin'

04-13-2011, 09:43 PM	#1
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	Crossing borders: A musing Why is it that the people who want to restrict the influx of foreigners into the US are generally also the ones who support US soldiers being in foreign countries? Sure, the purposes and intended durations are different, but if borders are such an important part of national identity/security, why is it OK for to "violate" others' borders so? And if borders are not an important part of national identity/security, why are we so concerned about them? Maybe I'm trolling or maybe I have a point? Whichever you think, please keep it nice, thanks __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

04-13-2011, 11:31 PM	#2
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	I wouldn't point out this parallel to any of them, if I were you. It'll just inspire them to put roadside bombs and snipers along the Rio Grande. __________________ My book My other book My spirit animal

04-13-2011, 11:36 PM	#4
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	Ah, but there must be more to it than that, 5 of 5, unless you also would support any and all measures to make the process of legal immigration easy, inexpensive, and fast. __________________ My book My other book My spirit animal

04-14-2011, 07:12 AM	#6
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	So the foreign troops can mass quickly. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

04-14-2011, 08:07 AM	#9
Spexxvet Makes some feel uncomfortable Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 10,346	OMFG! 5of5 is UG! Now I'll have to put anonymoo on ignore, too. __________________ "I'm certainly free, nay compelled, to spread the gospel of Spex. " - xoxoxoBruce

04-13-2011, 11:34 PM	#3
anonymoo Disorderly Orderly Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 52	5of5 here. it seems like you have an immigrant's point of view on borders. there is nothing wrong will legal immigration. what we detest are the illegal immigrants. we welcome you if you do it legally, if you don't you are a criminal. simple

04-13-2011, 11:51 PM	#5
anonymoo Disorderly Orderly Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 52	why should it be easy, inexpensive, or fast?

04-14-2011, 08:12 AM	#10
infinite monkey Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 13,002	Which one: anonymoo, anonygoo, anonypoo, anonyloo, or anonystew?

04-14-2011, 12:30 PM	#11
SamIam Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Not here Posts: 2,655	Well, US immigrants are not pouring into Afganistan, etc. US soldiers are, however, and the effect is even more detrimental. What you are forgetting is that the US does not implement policy based on any sort of universal ethic or ideal or even logic. US policy is about whatever political party currently in power thinks is best for itself and its major contributors - to hell with everyone else.

04-14-2011, 05:29 PM	#14
jimhelm a beautiful fool Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: 39.939705 Posts: 4,504	I gotta say.... this thread has yet to be amusing. __________________ There's a Shadow just behind me. Shrouding every step I take. Making every promise empty, pointing every finger at me. _tool

04-14-2011, 05:55 PM	#15
infinite monkey Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 13,002	Your muse has arrived. So an immigrant walks into a bar with a parrot on his shoulder... I got nuttin'

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