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07-11-2012, 03:01 PM | #1 | |
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07-11-2012, 03:20 PM | #2 |
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I know that if I operated, let's say, a mall, i would hesitate to let a gun shop open in my mall.
I also know that I would not feel too hot if i were an accidental facilitator of illegal or otherwise regulation-dodging arms sales, and had no way to regulate the sellers within my marketplace to make sure they were providing their sales legally. I think google was put in a sketchy legal and ethical place, and decided to err on the side of, making sure everything being sold on their own marketplace was something they were comfortable with being sold under the Google brand's umbrella. would google be "dead to you" if they stopped turning up results for fetish images of animal abuse? of child pornography (they already don't)? What if wal-mart stopped selling guns, citing regulatory concerns, or a tendency for terrorist or organized-crime elements to only buy their guns at wal-marts? would you boycott wal-mart? why are guns a special category of goods that companies HAVE to be okay with selling?
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07-11-2012, 04:00 PM | #3 | |
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07-11-2012, 04:10 PM | #4 |
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That's perfectly fine, since they aren't infringing on my rights to purchase, keep, use and supply any of my guns. I'll just buy them at the gun shows like I have done before. Or inherit them via my grandparents... which I can't do any more cuz I don't have grandparents anymore. Gun shows, it is!
As long as Google doesn't restrict my research of firearms before I decide on buying one, it's cool (and their right and choice) if they don't wanna sell them. And THAT is only a matter of convenience.
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07-11-2012, 04:20 PM | #5 |
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Imagine the uproar.
Dude shoots up a shopping mall. Turns out he was mentally ill, wasn't supposed to be able to get a gun. How did he get one? Oh, he just bought it online. He bought it online?! Guns are one of those things that simply must have in-person oversight, IMHO. A real person to look you up and down, make sure you at least superficially appear to be who you say you are, make sure that you are not the same dude who came in a week ago pretending to be someone else. |
07-12-2012, 07:01 AM | #6 | |
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07-13-2012, 12:30 PM | #7 | |
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When you buy a gun online, you are paying money to the owner, who then takes the weapon to his friendly local gun dealer, who does the front half of the transfer paperwork and ships, via an approved carrier, to a gun store near you, where that gun store does the necessary background checks and paperwork, which involves much showing of ID. They charge a LOT for the shipping and inter-state paperwork.
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07-11-2012, 04:33 PM | #8 |
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Guns.
Oops, sorry, I thought this was the 'Stuff you wish wasnt invented....' thread! |
07-11-2012, 08:37 PM | #9 | |
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07-12-2012, 12:27 PM | #10 | |
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Switzerland is a small country and wishes to preserve its neutrality above all else. To this end, every healthy male in Switzerland between the ages of 18 and 60 is an on-call member of the Swiss army. They go in for a month or two of rigorous training every 2 years or so. The Swiss keep their military issued weapons in their homes in case of a sudden emergency like an attempted invasion or something. This saved the Swiss from Hitler during WWII. That and the fact that Hitler needed the rail lines between Germany and fascist Italy to remain open without threat of sabotauge. Those rails just so happened to run through the Swiss Alps. And anyhow, if someone invaded Switzerland with genocide in mind, that person would have to hate just about everyone since Switzerland is divided into 4 regions - French speaking, German, Italian, and the quaint Romanch Swiss who speak a dialect more like Latin then anyone else. As usual your paranoid hysteria overcomes all reason in your posts. |
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07-12-2012, 12:37 PM | #11 |
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Notice that many of the genocidal governments/groups also use things like tanks, airstrikes, missiles and/or massive number of armed men on the order of the thousands. Your standard gun, no matter how big, will be more or less useless against them. Not one of them uses small groups of guys who simply have nothing better to do and might find pause in an armed angry man (or family) for any of the genocides that get heard about. One man in his house with his hands full of guns is not going to stop any of those if they really want to kill you. If they can't get in, they'll just burn you out... then you can go down in a blaze of Honor and Glory and Napalm.
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07-12-2012, 12:38 PM | #12 |
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Rwanda comes to mind. But the USA is no Rwanda.
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07-11-2012, 04:36 PM | #13 |
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"Google is dead to me."
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07-11-2012, 04:45 PM | #14 |
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I don't like it.
When I use a search engine to find a vendor to sell me something, I expect all legal such vendors to be listed. I do not appreciate the search engine censoring what I can shop for. Google isn't selling the guns (or whatever), they are only listing the sellers. So, if Google decided that we shouldn't be reading about vampires, because it's unChristianlike, and they blocked all books relating to vampires from their "shopping list", would that be ok? It is NOT the same as Amazon, who actually sells the products and warranties them, and to whom you return the product, even though they don't manufacture the item. So Amazon DOES have the right to decide what to include in their wares. Google should be like the operator, 411, or the phone book used to be. Just list the vendors and let me decide what to buy and from whom.
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07-11-2012, 05:49 PM | #15 | ||
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Ibby's mall analogy is a good one. google's changing the way results are displayed and the change is to make it more like a shopping mall and less like a search engine. they're only going to list some vendors' items/lines for appearance in the shopping results--the ones that show up with a for sale price. this is no different than any other store that doesn't carry everything on the planet. Here's a list of the unacceptable product categories, from here: so. they won't be displaying hits for cars for sale. or cigarettes. or concert tickets. among a few other things. Naturally, you can still search for vendors of these items, but you can't get a priced listing for an item from google shopping. While I'm at it, Google Shopping is undergoing a considerable change. It used to be that when you did a search for an item, ammo or blenders or cameras or whatever, you got some paid hits for vendors and some hits for the actual items. Now, the only vendors or items you'll see hits for are for those vendors who have paid to be included in shopping results. That's right, you won't see any shopping results for your desired item unless a vendor has already paid google to be included in the shopping results. this is not the same as google search where there are hits for vendors who haven't paid to be included. Vendors have to pay google to have their products listed in shopping results, not in search results.
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