Bush Tells Blacks, 'I'm Here to Ask for Your Vote'

[ladysycamore]

Heh...Had to laugh to myself when I saw this. He must realize that he's not going to get it.

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.j...t&section=news

[lumberjim]

I find that seeing this:



on the same page as the article somehow lessens the credibility of the source. Is Rueters tilted in a particular direction?

oh, and ...uh...George is a dick.

[Cyber Wolf]

For some reason, whenever I see a politician trying to pull the 'honesty is the best policy' card, I trust them even less.

[slang]

What are you talking about LS? He'll probably get the same 1% that most Reps get.

It does seem strange to me though that Bush has 3 solid, competent blacks in his administration, more than "the first black president", yet he'll still only get the same 1%.

This just reinforces the notion that blacks as a voting block, aren't really interested in working their way up in the society. They don't see Condi, Rodney, or Colin as proof you can be black in America and succeed. They see them as "uncle Toms". Sad.

It will truly be interesting though to see what the numbers are as even the longtime black supporter, Bill Cosby, suggests that maybe.....just maybe, blacks have actually won the war for equal treatment, but instead choose to blame white America for their lack of progress when in fact, they simply need to move away from the victim mentality.

Voting Republican would be a major step in doing so.

[elSicomoro]

Ads from both campaigns are showing up on news websites. As a whole, I find Reuters to be pretty middle-of-the-road.

For older Blacks, the vote on Election Day will be a matter of "Do I want a crumb or absolutely nothing? Hmmm...that crumb looks mighty good."

For younger Blacks, two groups will converge--the apathetic ("What does it matter anyway?") and the militant ("Fuck both these crackers!"). Neither will vote.

The Democrats are taking the Black vote for granted...and they shouldn't. Their votes are going to be important for Kerry in PA, MI, OH and MO. Having said that though, the Black vote has become less and less important as a whole, for 2 primary reasons:

--Blacks are getting closer to Whites in terms of equality.
--Latinos have become the "more important" minority. They're now the largest minority group in this country.

Will we see a shift in party affiliation from Blacks? It depends on how badly the GOP wants them and how much longer they're willing to take the treatment they get from the Dems.

[Elspode]

Originally Posted by sycamore

Will we see a shift in party affiliation from Blacks? It depends on how badly the GOP wants them ...

Well, given that Bush has spoken to pretty much everyone who would stand still long enough to listen, refusing the NAACP invite would seem to mean the answer to that speculation is "not very".

[smoothmoniker]

1865 – Abolished Slavery

1868 – passed the 14th Amendment after one attempt blocked by Democrats

1955 – Eisenhower makes E Fredrick Murrow first African-American to hold a cabinet level position

1957 – Eisenhower signs the Civil Rights Act

1957 – enforced the desegregation of Little Rock, Arkansas under armed escort by presidential order.

1964 – passed the Civil Rights Act over a democrat filibuster

1965 – passed the Voting Rights Act, again over democratic opposition

1987 – Reagan appoints the first black National Security Adviser

1989 – Bush Sr. appoints the first black Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

2000 – Bush Jr. appoint the first black Secretary of State

If abolition, broken color barriers, voting rights and civil rights are enough to “earn the Black vote”, then maybe the Republicans should stop trying! Imagine what America might look like today if the Democrats had been successful in 1865, 1868, 1964, and 1965.

-sm

[xoxoxoBruce]

A BET/CBS News poll of 986 black Americans released on Wednesday found that Kerry led Bush by 8 to 1. However, most said they were just "satisfied" with Kerry as the challenger.

I think if the same poll was given to whites, it wouldn't be 8 to 1, but most would "just "satisfied"" with Kerry.
The best Kerry can do is....Hey, he's not Bush.
The best Bush can do is.....Hey, he's not Hitler.

[slang]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

The best Bush can do is.....Hey, he's not Hitler

But he could be "if he applied himself". I heard that the other day and laughed my ass off.......and Bush is "my guy".

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by slang

But he could be "if he applied himself". I heard that the other day and laughed my ass off.......and Bush is "my guy".

Shouldn't that be "my lesser of two evils"

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by smoothmoniker

If abolition, broken color barriers, voting rights and civil rights are enough to “earn the Black vote”, then maybe the Republicans should stop trying! Imagine what America might look like today if the Democrats had been successful in 1865, 1868, 1964, and 1965.

They probably would have kept the black vote if they hadn't worked so hard to take the racist vote from the Democrats. During the civil rights battles, most of the anti-civil-rights Democrats migrated to the Republican party.

[elSicomoro]

Originally Posted by smoothmoniker

1957 – Eisenhower signs the Civil Rights Act

Which got to his desk partly as a result of the efforts of Sen. Lyndon Johnson, D-TX.

1964 – passed the Civil Rights Act over a democrat filibuster

1965 – passed the Voting Rights Act, again over democratic opposition

Both championed and signed by President Lyndon Johnson.

1955 – Eisenhower makes E Fredrick Murrow first African-American to hold a cabinet level position

Do you have a source on this? I can't find anything on this guy.

[smoothmoniker]

Originally Posted by sycamore

Do you have a source on this? I can't find anything on this guy.

here

[elSicomoro]

Originally Posted by smoothmoniker

here

Thanks.

No wonder I couldn't find anything on him...his name was E. Frederic Morrow.

[richlevy]

Originally Posted by smoothmoniker

1957 – Eisenhower signs the Civil Rights Act

-sm

Over a record-setting filibuster by Dixiecrat Strom Thurmond who switched parties to Republican when he realized that the Democratic party would not support segregation.

On the second day of the convention, as I went walking through one of those huge Miami Beach hotels, I heard Thurmond speak to an audience of Southerners. The gist of Thurmond's message was clear: You Southern Republicans want to vote for Reagan because he's the true conservative, but stick with Nixon on the first ballot because he has promised, if elected, to stop enforcing the Civil Rights and Voting Right Acts of 1964 and 1965. (So far as any of us knew,

from this link.


Let's face it, which party in this election is going to get the Klan and Nazi vote? The Republicans may have a big tent, but it's not big enough to hold both the KKK and the NAACP.