Wildlife, living next to nature

xoxoxoBruce · 03-19-2014, 05:51 PM

Tyngsborough, Massachusetts, a town of about 11,000 on the New Hampshire border, 28 miles north and west of Boston. A family living there were excited to see a couple of Bobcats hanging out in their yard. So were the Boston TV reporters.

It's fun to spot something bigger than a squirrel or woodchuck in your yard, or even your town. Fox, Coyote, Big Cats, Deer, Moose, or Bear are pretty rare sightings for most Americans, and that's kind of sad.

Most of us live in pretty close proximity to each other these days. The majority of parents demand any ground the kids can access be made safe from Mother Nature's teeth, claws, hooves, barbs and spines. My god, the children, won't somebody please think of the children.
So I guess if the critters showed up they'd be tarred & feathered, then run out of town on a rail.

Hey look, a critter, take it's picture. I can't, the battery's dead on my phone... of course if the phone wasn't dead, the critter wouldn't have been spotted in the first place.

orthodoc · 03-19-2014, 06:08 PM

I'd love to see bobcats. So far, just foxes (who scream in the most bone-shivering way during mating season ... ), a very occasional coyote, and prey animals. If I could keep the hunters off my bit of land, maybe I'd see a predator.

Griff · 03-19-2014, 06:28 PM

I've seen both a bobcat and a bear here. It is pretty cool.

Gravdigr · 03-20-2014, 03:34 PM

The bobcat population is on the rise. Used to be, if you saw a live bobcat, you counted yourself a member of a very exclusive club.

Around here, the increased visibility of the bobcat is not due to habitat encroachment. There's just more of them. Our bobcat season harvest records back this up. The 2013 season shows 3189 bobcats taken in KY. This number astounds me.

Pop caught this one on one of his trailcams several years ago:

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xoxoxoBruce · 03-20-2014, 04:23 PM

Holy cow Digr, PA has grown from 58 Bobcats in 2000 to 1056 last year, but 3189 is mind boggling.

Oh, we harvested 40,109 coyotes which the state pays a $25 bounty on from a $700,000 fund the legislature set aside.

Couldn't they just start a rumor the Coyotes are moving into the state to sell crack and let the thugs take care of it?

Also 343,110 deer, plus probably another 100,000 on the roads.
Issued 72 Elk permits which yielded 72 bulls, 14 over 700 lbs.
What surprised me was 3,510 bear, 58 over 500 lbs, and one at 772 lbs.

Gravdigr · 03-20-2014, 04:38 PM

A 772 lb black bear!! That's a Sasquatch.

KY killed 20 bears.

Sundae · 03-20-2014, 03:50 PM

I'm just freaked out by the number of familiar names on that map.
Which is silly, because I've known since I was ?14? and first studied American history that that was the case.
Seems more real when it's on the Cellar though.

I've never not ever spotted even a squirrel in our back garden. That's Skwi-rell BTW, not Skwirl :LOL: I envy the 'rents and their soon-to-be-garden, because I bet they get squirrels there.
But before the housing estate grew up aroud us I regularly saw foxes (not urban, the ones that ate mousies) low-slung grunting badgers, bats which looked like wind-up toys flung into the sky, and rabbits grey as dawn. I miss the connection with nature and with the seasons.

Limey sees more - far more. I saw my first ever hare from her window.
And her whole world changes every month, but every month it stays the same.

Clodfobble · 03-20-2014, 07:46 PM

Interestingly, we just today got a notice from our MUD about coyote sightings and missing/mutilated pets in the area. They claimed that shooting them just makes room for another one to move in, and they will instead be clearing underbrush and generally making the environment undesirable for them so they will go away on their own. I'm dubious.

orthodoc · 03-21-2014, 07:32 AM

Predators are necessary for a healthy ecosystem. We ruthlessly exterminate every predator we can and then lament that we're overrun with prey animals.

Undertoad · 03-22-2014, 12:23 AM

http://www.wcax.com/story/25028417/vt-woman

Quote:

Nancy Hill thought the cat needed help.

"It was below zero and I thought the poor cat needs to get in and thaw in warmth," said Hill.

Looking out her Greensboro window on Town Meeting Day, Hill said she saw the animal sitting under her bird feeder and sprang into action.

"I used to have a cat and I had a cat carrier," said Hill.

She grabbed the carrier, dashed out the door, fast approaching the feline and finding something wasn't right.

"There was quite a bit of blood and some fur," she said.

And as Hill got close, she quickly learned the cat was no kitty.

"Well once it got up, it went so fast, it was scary," said Hill.

Hill almost caged herself a bobcat.

Sundae · 03-22-2014, 02:09 AM

Glorious.

Gravdigr · 03-22-2014, 03:51 PM

We've all held a 2 pound kitten that went batshit crazy, and turned into a furious ball of teeth and claws and owfuckshitgetitoffofme. You can't get rid of one fast enough.

Now imagine if it was as feral as possible, and weighed forty+ pounds.

A healthy bobcat can bring down a half-grown deer.

orthodoc · 03-22-2014, 09:22 PM

Not all of us ... cats get an undeservedly bad rap.

xoxoxoBruce · 03-23-2014, 12:52 AM

You've never had a kitten suddenly turn into a buzzsaw?

Gravdigr · 03-23-2014, 02:06 PM

The girl ain't lived...

03-19-2014, 05:51 PM	#1
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Wildlife, living next to nature Tyngsborough, Massachusetts, a town of about 11,000 on the New Hampshire border, 28 miles north and west of Boston. A family living there were excited to see a couple of Bobcats hanging out in their yard. So were the Boston TV reporters. It's fun to spot something bigger than a squirrel or woodchuck in your yard, or even your town. Fox, Coyote, Big Cats, Deer, Moose, or Bear are pretty rare sightings for most Americans, and that's kind of sad. Most of us live in pretty close proximity to each other these days. The majority of parents demand any ground the kids can access be made safe from Mother Nature's teeth, claws, hooves, barbs and spines. My god, the children, won't somebody please think of the children. So I guess if the critters showed up they'd be tarred & feathered, then run out of town on a rail. Hey look, a critter, take it's picture. I can't, the battery's dead on my phone... of course if the phone wasn't dead, the critter wouldn't have been spotted in the first place. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

03-19-2014, 06:08 PM	#2
orthodoc Not Suspicious, Merely Canadian Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 3,774	I'd love to see bobcats. So far, just foxes (who scream in the most bone-shivering way during mating season ... ), a very occasional coyote, and prey animals. If I could keep the hunters off my bit of land, maybe I'd see a predator. __________________ The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated. - Ghandi

03-19-2014, 06:28 PM	#3
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	I've seen both a bobcat and a bear here. It is pretty cool. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

03-20-2014, 03:34 PM	#4
Gravdigr The Un-Tuckian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: South Central...KY that is Posts: 39,517	The bobcat population is on the rise. Used to be, if you saw a live bobcat, you counted yourself a member of a very exclusive club. Around here, the increased visibility of the bobcat is not due to habitat encroachment. There's just more of them. Our bobcat season harvest records back this up. The 2013 season shows 3189 bobcats taken in KY. This number astounds me. Pop caught this one on one of his trailcams several years ago: __________________ These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA, EPA, FBI, DEA, CDC, or FDIC. These statements are not intended to diagnose, cause, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. If you feel you have been harmed/offended by, or, disagree with any of the above statements or images, please feel free to fuck right off. Last edited by Gravdigr; 03-20-2014 at 03:59 PM. Reason: a 'd'

03-20-2014, 04:23 PM	#5
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Holy cow Digr, PA has grown from 58 Bobcats in 2000 to 1056 last year, but 3189 is mind boggling. Oh, we harvested 40,109 coyotes which the state pays a $25 bounty on from a $700,000 fund the legislature set aside. Couldn't they just start a rumor the Coyotes are moving into the state to sell crack and let the thugs take care of it? Also 343,110 deer, plus probably another 100,000 on the roads. Issued 72 Elk permits which yielded 72 bulls, 14 over 700 lbs. What surprised me was 3,510 bear, 58 over 500 lbs, and one at 772 lbs. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

03-20-2014, 04:38 PM	#6
Gravdigr The Un-Tuckian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: South Central...KY that is Posts: 39,517	A 772 lb black bear!! That's a Sasquatch. KY killed 20 bears. __________________ These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA, EPA, FBI, DEA, CDC, or FDIC. These statements are not intended to diagnose, cause, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. If you feel you have been harmed/offended by, or, disagree with any of the above statements or images, please feel free to fuck right off.

03-20-2014, 03:50 PM	#7
Sundae polaroid of perfection Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 24,185	I'm just freaked out by the number of familiar names on that map. Which is silly, because I've known since I was ?14? and first studied American history that that was the case. Seems more real when it's on the Cellar though. I've never not ever spotted even a squirrel in our back garden. That's Skwi-rell BTW, not Skwirl :LOL: I envy the 'rents and their soon-to-be-garden, because I bet they get squirrels there. But before the housing estate grew up aroud us I regularly saw foxes (not urban, the ones that ate mousies) low-slung grunting badgers, bats which looked like wind-up toys flung into the sky, and rabbits grey as dawn. I miss the connection with nature and with the seasons. Limey sees more - far more. I saw my first ever hare from her window. And her whole world changes every month, but every month it stays the same. __________________ Life's hard you know, so strike a pose on a Cadillac

03-20-2014, 07:46 PM	#8
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	Interestingly, we just today got a notice from our MUD about coyote sightings and missing/mutilated pets in the area. They claimed that shooting them just makes room for another one to move in, and they will instead be clearing underbrush and generally making the environment undesirable for them so they will go away on their own. I'm dubious. __________________ My book My other book My spirit animal

03-21-2014, 07:32 AM	#9
orthodoc Not Suspicious, Merely Canadian Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 3,774	Predators are necessary for a healthy ecosystem. We ruthlessly exterminate every predator we can and then lament that we're overrun with prey animals. __________________ The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated. - Ghandi

03-22-2014, 02:09 AM	#11
Sundae polaroid of perfection Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 24,185	Glorious. __________________ Life's hard you know, so strike a pose on a Cadillac

03-22-2014, 03:51 PM	#12
Gravdigr The Un-Tuckian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: South Central...KY that is Posts: 39,517	We've all held a 2 pound kitten that went batshit crazy, and turned into a furious ball of teeth and claws and owfuckshitgetitoffofme. You can't get rid of one fast enough. Now imagine if it was as feral as possible, and weighed forty+ pounds. A healthy bobcat can bring down a half-grown deer. __________________ These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA, EPA, FBI, DEA, CDC, or FDIC. These statements are not intended to diagnose, cause, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. If you feel you have been harmed/offended by, or, disagree with any of the above statements or images, please feel free to fuck right off.

03-22-2014, 09:22 PM	#13
orthodoc Not Suspicious, Merely Canadian Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 3,774	Not all of us ... cats get an undeservedly bad rap. __________________ The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated. - Ghandi

03-23-2014, 12:52 AM	#14
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	You've never had a kitten suddenly turn into a buzzsaw? __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

03-23-2014, 02:06 PM	#15
Gravdigr The Un-Tuckian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: South Central...KY that is Posts: 39,517	The girl ain't lived... __________________ These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA, EPA, FBI, DEA, CDC, or FDIC. These statements are not intended to diagnose, cause, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. If you feel you have been harmed/offended by, or, disagree with any of the above statements or images, please feel free to fuck right off.

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