Taxes 2005

wolf · 03-19-2006, 12:49 PM

Riddle me this, batman ... If I just paid $40 for Turbotax Deluxe with the state package, why are they asking me for ANOTHER $30 to submit my returns electronically?

smoothmoniker · 03-19-2006, 12:51 PM

Because that's how they make their money. If you don't want to pay it, just print out the returns and mail them in. That's perfectly fine to do.

Also, save you receipts. Tax preparation expenses are deductible.

Rock Steady · 03-19-2006, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by wolf

Riddle me this, batman ... If I just paid $40 for Turbotax Deluxe with the state package, why are they asking me for ANOTHER $30 to submit my returns electronically?

Nickle and dime you. Year after year.

My CPA just includes the $30 in her $600 fee.

tw · 03-19-2006, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by wolf

Riddle me this, batman ... If I just paid $40 for Turbotax Deluxe with the state package, why are they asking me for ANOTHER $30 to submit my returns electronically?

Government - Congressmen whose taxes are done for them by government employees - have made taxes so complicated that ‘Turbo Tax’, et al estimates you will spend maybe $100 for the software. Once it was only $20. Stopped using those expensive tax programs about 4 years ago when prices were easily over $50 - and increasing. Instead use one of those free tax programs offered by the IRS web site whenever I can.

Another trick is to download the *.PDF form and fill in those numbers. Print or mail that form. However the *.PDF form still does not add numbers automatically as it could.

One law: every Congressman must do their own taxes without any consultants or tax lawyers. Suddenly tax laws will get readable again. I don't expect it to happen. Too many Congressmen (ie Delay, Stevens) make laws they want because they are loyal and self serving Democrats and Republicans - which means being American is secondary. Yes I do question their patriotism - such as the rudderless Nancy Pelosi.

Did the software get 4 times more complex compared to when it was only $20 for everything? No. But by encouraging incumbent Congressman to not simplify tax law, then everyone including the 'bought and paid for' Congressman profit at your expense. CPA costing $thousands are now required (and MBA types claim this creates more jobs and therefore makes the economy healthy).

Too many will welcome the 'Tax Cut' solution rather than attack the problem: ie Rick Santorum who is up for reelection this November.

Clodfobble · 03-19-2006, 02:04 PM

Why would you buy the software separately, when you can just run it off their website and not pay anything at all until you decide to officially e-file?

slang · 03-19-2006, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by wolf

Riddle me this, batman ... If I just paid $40 for Turbotax Deluxe with the state package, why are they asking me for ANOTHER $30 to submit my returns electronically?

What is the national average dollar amount per refund and what percentage receive one?

You know how annoyed I get every year with filling out all the forms and such so I'm not defending TT or the tax code for sure. The reality seems to be that most people will get one or two thousand back and compared to 2 grand, what's $70 ? What's another $100 for that matter?

Yes, it is also true that the $70 fee is to get back your money in the first place.

xoxoxoBruce · 03-19-2006, 06:55 PM

No, the fee is for convenience. It only costs 39 cents to file.

glatt · 03-20-2006, 08:21 AM

I have never paid anyone to do my taxes, nor have I paid for software. I was very proud and all superiour thinking about this until last year, when I discovered that for three years, I hadn't been taking advantage of a particular loophole I could use. I read about this loophole in Parade magazine, of all places. So I went back and filed amended returns for three previous years, and got $200 for each amended return I filed. Took about 2 hours of research and paperwork to get that $600 back. Unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on how you look at it,) my income is just over the threshold for being eligible for that particular loophole this year.

After discovering that my incompetence nearly cost me $600, I'm not nearly as cocky about doing my taxes myself, but I still do them because I am cheap.

Kitsune · 03-20-2006, 08:28 AM

Speaking of which, anyone care to share any fun loopholes they've come across?

...please? I'm single, I own no property, and the IRS loooooves me.

glatt · 03-20-2006, 09:09 AM

No. You're pretty much screwed.

Can you at least file the EZ form? I miss those simple days.

richlevy · 03-20-2006, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Kitsune

Speaking of which, anyone care to share any fun loopholes they've come across?

...please? I'm single, I own no property, and the IRS loooooves me.

Well, you could fumigate your house and claim the loss of a stable of thouroughbred North American racing cockroaches.

BrianR · 03-20-2006, 08:57 PM

Thirty nine cents???

Did the cost of stamps go up again?

tw · 03-21-2006, 05:22 PM

Government has now announced a (potential) rule change. Those tax software companies can sell information on your tax forms. The George Jr administration approves of this idea. I think they just tried to slip that one past us and the press caught wind of it. Actually, when you submit your tax returns to a tax preparation company, technically, they own the data.

Rock Steady · 03-24-2006, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by tw

Government has now announced a (potential) rule change. Those tax software companies can sell information on your tax forms. The George Jr administration approves of this idea. I think they just tried to slip that one past us and the press caught wind of it. Actually, when you submit your tax returns to a tax preparation company, technically, they own the data.

unbelievable. thanks for the heads up. A private CPA is more obligated to the client than a big tax prep company. The annual $600 seems more reasonable all the time.

Clodfobble · 03-21-2006, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianR

Thirty nine cents???

Did the cost of stamps go up again?

Yes, at the beginning of February.

03-19-2006, 12:49 PM	#1
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	Taxes 2005 Riddle me this, batman ... If I just paid $40 for Turbotax Deluxe with the state package, why are they asking me for ANOTHER $30 to submit my returns electronically? __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

03-19-2006, 12:51 PM	#2
smoothmoniker to live and die in LA Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 2,090	Because that's how they make their money. If you don't want to pay it, just print out the returns and mail them in. That's perfectly fine to do. Also, save you receipts. Tax preparation expenses are deductible. __________________ to live and die in LA

03-19-2006, 06:55 PM	#7
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	No, the fee is for convenience. It only costs 39 cents to file. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

03-19-2006, 02:04 PM	#5
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	Why would you buy the software separately, when you can just run it off their website and not pay anything at all until you decide to officially e-file?

03-20-2006, 08:21 AM	#8
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	I have never paid anyone to do my taxes, nor have I paid for software. I was very proud and all superiour thinking about this until last year, when I discovered that for three years, I hadn't been taking advantage of a particular loophole I could use. I read about this loophole in Parade magazine, of all places. So I went back and filed amended returns for three previous years, and got $200 for each amended return I filed. Took about 2 hours of research and paperwork to get that $600 back. Unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on how you look at it,) my income is just over the threshold for being eligible for that particular loophole this year. After discovering that my incompetence nearly cost me $600, I'm not nearly as cocky about doing my taxes myself, but I still do them because I am cheap.

03-20-2006, 08:28 AM	#9
Kitsune still eats dirt Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 3,031	Speaking of which, anyone care to share any fun loopholes they've come across? ...please? I'm single, I own no property, and the IRS loooooves me.

03-20-2006, 09:09 AM	#10
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	No. You're pretty much screwed. Can you at least file the EZ form? I miss those simple days.

03-20-2006, 08:57 PM	#12
BrianR Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 3,338	Thirty nine cents??? Did the cost of stamps go up again?

03-21-2006, 05:22 PM	#13
tw Read? I only know how to write. Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 11,933	Government has now announced a (potential) rule change. Those tax software companies can sell information on your tax forms. The George Jr administration approves of this idea. I think they just tried to slip that one past us and the press caught wind of it. Actually, when you submit your tax returns to a tax preparation company, technically, they own the data.

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