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Gone and done
Join Date: Sep 2001
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I've finished my civic obligation to Mercer County.
After all the testimony, all the waiting, all the missed work, all the safety concerns -- I was an alternate.
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Another article about the witness intimidation that occurred in this trial [nytimes].
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go ahead, abbrev. it
Join Date: Jun 2005
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I have to say I'd be checking under the car and very carefully opening the door for a few months after serving on that jury.
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The future is unwritten
Join Date: Oct 2002
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I think it was fortunate to be an alternate, for your sake.
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Read? I only know how to write.
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Periodically, she would call me from her ‘location’. Well, I took caution. At one point, noticed a car following me. I was using different routes. Constantly looking for ‘followers’. I was shocked how dumb obvious they were. So I took a turn off that nobody would take – because I could not believe ‘professionals’ were that bad. I watched the car stop in the middle of that highway intersection. They watched me drive around the curve. Eventually she decided she had to leave town. I took her to the airport. Sat her in a back table with her back was always to the crowd and watched through large glass restaurant windows. If I started watching someone (while she was talking), she would get nervous, panic, and start looking about. I kept telling her to only look at me; that I was constantly watching over her shoulder. It was that scary for her. Well, he kept calling her parents home. They said she was not there. But one day, he called when the parents were not home. She picked up the phone. In eight hours, he flew across seven states. Within twelve hours (I am told by her friend) that she was married. Now she was no longer a threat. She could not testify against him. I told select others what I knew. Told friends that if missing, call the FBI. Not local police (for obvious reasons). Was I nervous? No. Apparently I am that dumb. Taking due precautions (and those precautions were numerous) also means fear did not happen. One who takes charge of his environment has no time for and therefore does not entertain fear. At least that is my theory. |
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Not true. She can't be forced to testify against him.
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They tried to get me on several juries for a day... but I absolutely do not believe in the death penalty, believe in legalization and ... let's just say I have personal experience with child abuse... you are not "allowed" to serve on those juries if you do.
I wanted to serve, but no one wanted me. |
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Well, this was gang-related murder. No drugs, child abuse or death penalty -- I had no grounds to refuse. We would have been deliberating for a lot longer than 70 minutes, had I been on the jury.
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Are you saying you don't agree with the verdict, Pie?
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There were 4 counts. I did not think the state proved beyond a reasonable doubt on two of the lesser charges. I did agree with the jury on
the big one (murder).
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When Do I Get Virtual Unreality?
Join Date: Dec 2002
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I've been summoned twice to serve in the 33 years I've been a registered voter. Never even made it to alternate. Pisses me off, because I'd actually *like* to serve that particular civic duty. I believe in our system of criminal justice, flawed though it is.
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That wasn't presented to us, Zen. We were not told of the little girl's discovery.
It's amazing what data does and does not make it in front of the jury. I took very seriously the injunction not to read/see anything about the case in the media (easy for me to do, since I had never wanted to read anything about Trenton in the ~30 years I've lived in this county). I guess the judge must have ruled that the little girl's statement, etc. would have been too prejudicial. It may make it into the sentencing phase. I was only selected as an alternate right before deliberation started. Let me tell you, I was pissed. As anyone who knows me can vouch, I am nothing if not opinionated. Sitting through three weeks of testimony and missing the chance to make my opinions known was hard to swallow. ![]()
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So 14 jurors sat through the trial, then they chose 12 of them to make the deliberation? I wonder who, and how, they made that choice?
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go ahead, abbrev. it
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That's different from the trials I've sat on. They always selected 12 jurors and 2-4 alternates (depending on the length) at the start.
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