They call this a "game"?

Sheldonrs · 02-13-2009, 09:56 AM

Why kind of sick mind thinks of this as playing?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sciencean...by-Amazon.html

Rapelay virtual rape game banned by Amazon
A PC game that allows players to gang rape virtual women – and then force them to have an abortion – has been banned from Amazon.

By Matthew Moore
Last Updated: 1:42PM GMT 13 Feb 2009

Withdrawn from sale: Amazon.com has stopped selling RapeLay, in which players have to stalk and rape a family of women
In Rapelay, gamers direct a character to sexually assault a mother and her two young daughters at an underground station, before raping any of a selection female characters.

The game was intended for release just in Japan, but was on offer to British buyers through Amazon Marketplace, the section of the online store's website open to third-party sellers.

But Amazon has now withdrawn the game after complaints from users, deeming it to be inappropriate. "We determined that we did not want to be selling this particular item," a spokeswoman said.

Rapelay was developed by the Japanese production house Illusion, which makes a number of sexually violent games for the domestic market. Their other titles include "Battle Raper" and "Artificial Girl".

A spokesman for the company said: "We believe there is no problem with the software, which has cleared the domestic ratings of an ethics watchdog body."

Keith Vaz, the Labour MP for Leicester East who has previously spoken out against computer games that promote violence, condemned the game.

"It is intolerable that anyone would purchase a game that simulates the criminal offence of rape," he told the Belfast Telegraph.

Rapelay, which was released in 2006, encourages players to force the virtual woman they rape to have an abortion. If they are allowed to give birth the woman throws the player's character under a train, according to reviews of the game. It also has a feature allowing several players to team up against individual women.

glatt · 02-13-2009, 09:59 AM

I'm not going to defend a game where you rape women, but I think it's interesting that nobody seems to have a problem with all the video games where you kill people. Isn't murder worse than rape?

Sheldonrs · 02-13-2009, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by glatt

I'm not going to defend a game where you rape women, but I think it's interesting that nobody seems to have a problem with all the video games where you kill people. Isn't murder worse than rape?

Not to me. Murder takes your life. Rape can take your soul.

I have a problem with the games that glorify killing too but that's been argued before. And while it's just hair splitting. Most of the "games" that involve killing don't usually package it as the game you have to kill people with. The objective is some other goal with killing as the means. The rape "game"s primary objective is to rape.
Rape IS the goal.

Shawnee123 · 02-13-2009, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by glatt

I'm not going to defend a game where you rape women, but I think it's interesting that nobody seems to have a problem with all the video games where you kill people. Isn't murder worse than rape?

Uh, no. I don't think so.

glatt · 02-13-2009, 10:14 AM

I mean in the real world. You can get the death penalty for murder, but not for rape alone. The legal system seems to rank murder as worse than rape.

I agree with you that the game is really sick. This game feels worse to me than Grand Theft Auto, for example, but I wonder why that is. I don't think it's logical for me to feel that way.

Flint · 02-13-2009, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by glatt

This game feels worse to me than Grand Theft Auto, for example, but I wonder why that is. I don't think it's logical for me to feel that way.

glatt, I believe I can posit a logic behind your feelings on this. Rape is considered worse than murder because murder has been deemed to have practical applications (war, executions, self defense) while rape has been shown to have no practical applications which are commonly accepted by today’s standards (this disregards the historical utility of replacing an enemies genetic stock with your own). The concept of rape is repugnant because it cannot be justified as having any practical purpose. The concept of murder is acceptable, and something we can even relish in the thought of, because of its number of practical applications, and the fact that we are encouraged to consider it a viable option for the resolution of various matters.

This, in addition to the reason cited above.

glatt · 02-13-2009, 11:00 AM

You could be right. I'm really not sure.

I've had the urge to kill people before, but never the urge to rape anyone. Maybe being familiar with the one urge makes it more acceptable to see in a video game. You certainly see more killing in movies and TV shows than you do rapes, so that may make them more acceptable in a game too.

piercehawkeye45 · 02-13-2009, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by glatt

I'm not going to defend a game where you rape women, but I think it's interesting that nobody seems to have a problem with all the video games where you kill people. Isn't murder worse than rape?

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Originally Posted by glatt

I agree with you that the game is really sick. This game feels worse to me than Grand Theft Auto, for example, but I wonder why that is. I don't think it's logical for me to feel that way.

I'm with Shawnee on this, I don't think this game can be compared to any mindless killing game. The reason is because this game is an attack on women. In Grand Theft Auto, the killing is indiscriminate and has no meaning but this game has the point to rape women. The only games this could be compared with is one that sets out to kill homosexuals or lynch blacks.

This game reinforces the patriarchal power setup in our society and would be a very negative influence on boys because they may start to act, more than they would, with that sense of patriarchal power. That doesn't mean that boys will start to go out raping women, but they will start looking at them as they are presented in this game.

I'm not saying that Grand Theft Auto would not be harmful to a child but a child is not going to go around killing people or stealing cars, the point of the game is too exact to replicate or be influenced in any way but this game can easily influence young boys to act in a sexist nature.

Shawnee123 · 02-13-2009, 10:00 AM

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Rapelay was developed by the Japanese production house Illusion, which makes a number of sexually violent games for the domestic market. Their other titles include "Battle Raper" and "Artificial Girl".

Wacky Asians. And by wacky I mean fucked in the head. Sick fuckers ought to have their appendages sawn off and fed to them.

richlevy · 02-13-2009, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123

Wacky Asians. And by wacky I mean fucked in the head. Sick fuckers ought to have their appendages sawn off and fed to them.

Maybe there ought to be a rating beyond "MA", like "TSFAH" "Too sick for any human".

DanaC · 02-13-2009, 10:14 AM

Bullet through the head, or a gang rape and a lifetime to remember? I'd take the bullet.

[eta] I say that sitting here. In reality I have no doubt my survival instincts are as strong as any other creature's. My mind says death would be preferable. My biology says life is all there is.

Shawnee123 · 02-13-2009, 11:03 AM

It's a completely different thing.

Do only females see this?

Clodfobble · 02-13-2009, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Sheldonrs

Not to me. Murder takes your life. Rape can take your soul.

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Originally Posted by DanaC

Bullet through the head, or a gang rape and a lifetime to remember? I'd take the bullet.
[eta] I say that sitting here. In reality I have no doubt my survival instincts are as strong as any other creature's. My mind says death would be preferable. My biology says life is all there is.

Uh, y'all are nuts. I'd rather be raped and live, than be killed. I don't care what sort of nightmares and post-traumatic stress disorder I would have to suffer through, I don't want to fucking die.

If you (the general you) would honestly rather just die than be raped, how does that align with your opinion of so-called "honor killings" of women who have been raped?

Sheldonrs · 02-13-2009, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble

Uh, y'all are nuts. ..If you (the general you) would honestly rather just die than be raped, how does that align with your opinion of so-called "honor killings" of women who have been raped?

It aligns with my opinion that it's the rapist that should be put to death.

piercehawkeye45 · 02-13-2009, 12:07 PM

Another thought as well. Even though we as a society have longer sentences for murderers then rapists, rapists are viewed as much worse than murderers. If you murder, you are viewed as cold-hearted asshole, if you rape, you are viewed as sick pathetic power hungry little fucker that deserves to be beaten to a pulp.

02-13-2009, 09:56 AM	#1
Sheldonrs Master Dwellar Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 4,412	They call this a "game"? Why kind of sick mind thinks of this as playing? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sciencean...by-Amazon.html Rapelay virtual rape game banned by Amazon A PC game that allows players to gang rape virtual women – and then force them to have an abortion – has been banned from Amazon. By Matthew Moore Last Updated: 1:42PM GMT 13 Feb 2009 Withdrawn from sale: Amazon.com has stopped selling RapeLay, in which players have to stalk and rape a family of women In Rapelay, gamers direct a character to sexually assault a mother and her two young daughters at an underground station, before raping any of a selection female characters. The game was intended for release just in Japan, but was on offer to British buyers through Amazon Marketplace, the section of the online store's website open to third-party sellers. But Amazon has now withdrawn the game after complaints from users, deeming it to be inappropriate. "We determined that we did not want to be selling this particular item," a spokeswoman said. Rapelay was developed by the Japanese production house Illusion, which makes a number of sexually violent games for the domestic market. Their other titles include "Battle Raper" and "Artificial Girl". A spokesman for the company said: "We believe there is no problem with the software, which has cleared the domestic ratings of an ethics watchdog body." Keith Vaz, the Labour MP for Leicester East who has previously spoken out against computer games that promote violence, condemned the game. "It is intolerable that anyone would purchase a game that simulates the criminal offence of rape," he told the Belfast Telegraph. Rapelay, which was released in 2006, encourages players to force the virtual woman they rape to have an abortion. If they are allowed to give birth the woman throws the player's character under a train, according to reviews of the game. It also has a feature allowing several players to team up against individual women. __________________ Laugh and the world laughs with you; cry and the world laughs AT you.

02-13-2009, 11:03 AM	#12
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	It's a completely different thing. Do only females see this? __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

02-13-2009, 12:07 PM	#15
piercehawkeye45 Franklin Pierce Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,695	Another thought as well. Even though we as a society have longer sentences for murderers then rapists, rapists are viewed as much worse than murderers. If you murder, you are viewed as cold-hearted asshole, if you rape, you are viewed as sick pathetic power hungry little fucker that deserves to be beaten to a pulp. __________________ I like my perspectives like I like my baseball caps: one size fits all.

02-13-2009, 09:59 AM	#2
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	I'm not going to defend a game where you rape women, but I think it's interesting that nobody seems to have a problem with all the video games where you kill people. Isn't murder worse than rape?

02-13-2009, 10:14 AM	#5
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	I mean in the real world. You can get the death penalty for murder, but not for rape alone. The legal system seems to rank murder as worse than rape. I agree with you that the game is really sick. This game feels worse to me than Grand Theft Auto, for example, but I wonder why that is. I don't think it's logical for me to feel that way.

02-13-2009, 11:00 AM	#7
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	You could be right. I'm really not sure. I've had the urge to kill people before, but never the urge to rape anyone. Maybe being familiar with the one urge makes it more acceptable to see in a video game. You certainly see more killing in movies and TV shows than you do rapes, so that may make them more acceptable in a game too.

02-13-2009, 10:14 AM	#11
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	Bullet through the head, or a gang rape and a lifetime to remember? I'd take the bullet. [eta] I say that sitting here. In reality I have no doubt my survival instincts are as strong as any other creature's. My mind says death would be preferable. My biology says life is all there is.

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