Sex offender castration, necessary? I think so...

Nirvana · 05-05-2010, 05:16 PM

http://www.wthr.com/global/story.asp?s=12425136

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Police say Logansport 4-year-old was raped

Logansport - Police say they are talking to a person of interest in the suspected rape of a four-year-old girl in Logansport.

A city worker driving past spotted the girl crying at the corner of Plum and Linden, a block from her house, around 6:30 a.m. Sunday.

"She was crying, wearing her nightgown, told him she was going home," said Logansport Police Lt. Cathi Collins.

The child then went home and went to sleep.

"Her siblings awoke and realized she was in disarray and woke mom up," Lt. Collins said.

The mother later called police, saying the girl had been beaten, choked and raped.

"Horrible. I think in the 30 years I've been here, it's probably the worst I've seen," Lt. Collins said.

By Tuesday afternoon, police had located a person of interest and officers walked every inch of the neighborhood.

"Wanted to know if we saw anything and, no, unfortunately, we didn't see a thing," said neighbor Joellen Roberts.

Police asked everyone with a garage for permission to search their garage. Folks said yes. Police wanted to inspect garages because they have evidence the assault occurred in a garage.

Investigators think they've found the crime scene, a garage very close to the preschooler's house. It's unclear how she ended up in that garage sometime between 3:00 and 6:30 a.m. Sunday.

Checking the state's sex offender registry, 22 violent and sex offenders appear within a mile of the girl's house. Some of them are classified as sexual predators. Eight of the offenders are within a half-mile of the home.

"In a park right in the neighborhood and stuff, you know, it's not good at all," said a neighbor.

An arrest will calm fears in the Cass County town.

"You almost want to keep her on a leash, because it's really scary to think that it happened this close to home," said Raine Monahan, the grandmother of a four-year-old.

"I've got a three-year-old, so it's like, it could happen to him. And now I'm like, I won't even let him go outside. Not anymore," said another neighbor. "It's crazy, it's sickening."

Because the victim is so young, there are questions, such as, "How did the suspect get access to her?" The police say there are no signs of forced entry at the home, but windows were left open at the house that night.

The girl is recovering and out of the hospital after the alleged assault.

classicman · 05-05-2010, 05:30 PM

Castration? No.

Single bullet - yup. . . or maybe just cut his d*ck off and let him bleed to death. There is no reason someone who does something like this should be on this planet another moment.

Cloud · 05-05-2010, 05:49 PM

ya gotta wonder how people live with themselves

xoxoxoBruce · 05-05-2010, 07:06 PM

Kill him.

GunMaster357 · 05-06-2010, 03:21 AM

If they ever find a DNA match, gimme a gun and I'll happily do him.

That kind of person has nothing to do in this world.

Sundae · 05-06-2010, 05:24 AM

Depends where he lives I suppose.
If it's in California he'd end up locked away in Coalinga for the rest of his life, even after serving the sentence passed down by a judge. With no legal recourse for release even if he agrees to chemical castration.

Enforced imprisonment outside the legal system with no hope of release. You don't get that for raping a girl over 16. You generally don't get that if you rape and murder her.

Obviously I'm not pro-paedophilia, but I think there are some places where laws are at least as harsh as they need to be.

DanaC · 05-06-2010, 05:47 AM

Awesome post Sundae!

Sundae · 05-06-2010, 06:27 AM

Dani did you hear about the sentence for the man murdering his 5 day old daughter handed out today?
Five years.
Slammed her down on a changing table first time he was left alone with her.

I'm not making any point here. I'm just saying.

rditlkustoleit · 05-06-2010, 07:06 AM

Jungle Justice baby! That means being subject to the swift laws of cause and effect.
You invade a pride of lions and violate one of their young, your going to be eaten - period.

The "choice" to commit predatory crimes creates the causes to forfeit one's life.

Predators such as these have a "hard wiring" issue that cannot be corrected, rehabilitated, etc. Their death benefits all, while their continued existence does not.

Therefore, we help protect the gene pool and thin the herd.

glatt · 05-06-2010, 07:28 AM

I think there should be some sort of system where people like this are charged with the crime, and the police get to show the evidence they have that these guys did it, and these guys get a chance to show it wasn't actually them, and then someone, or a group of people act as a sort of referee where they decide if they are pretty sure that the guy did it or not. And then they look at how bad the thing was that the guy did, and then they look at what the rules are for the punishments you give for the kind of bad thing these guys did, and then the referee(s) decide on the punishment, working within those rules. And I think it should be a calm and thoughtful process where these referee(s) use their minds. Oh, and these referees, they shouldn't be a bunch of snooty rich people. They should be regular people.

Shawnee123 · 05-06-2010, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by glatt

I think there should be some sort of system where people like this are charged with the crime, and the police get to show the evidence they have that these guys did it, and these guys get a chance to show it wasn't actually them, and then someone, or a group of people act as a sort of referee where they decide if they are pretty sure that the guy did it or not. And then they look at how bad the thing was that the guy did, and then they look at what the rules are for the punishments you give for the kind of bad thing these guys did, and then the referee(s) decide on the punishment, working within those rules. And I think it should be a calm and thoughtful process where these referee(s) use their minds. Oh, and these referees, they shouldn't be a bunch of snooty rich people. They should be regular people.

That's a brilliant idea! Hopefully, it won't be a group of, like, 12 Angry Men.

squirell nutkin · 05-06-2010, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by glatt

I think there should be some sort of system where people like this are charged with the crime, and the police get to show the evidence they have that these guys did it, and these guys get a chance to show it wasn't actually them, and then someone, or a group of people act as a sort of referee where they decide if they are pretty sure that the guy did it or not. And then they look at how bad the thing was that the guy did, and then they look at what the rules are for the punishments you give for the kind of bad thing these guys did, and then the referee(s) decide on the punishment, working within those rules. And I think it should be a calm and thoughtful process where these referee(s) use their minds. Oh, and these referees, they shouldn't be a bunch of snooty rich people. They should be regular people.

I'll trade you three 'breaking and entering', a shoplifter, three 'drunk and disorderlies' and a 2nd time DUI for a plea bargain from child rape to endangering the welfare of a minor. Do we have a deal?

Sadly, when some kids grow up they are not content to trade baseball cards.

classicman · 05-06-2010, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by glatt

... and then they look at what the rules are for the punishments you give for the kind of bad thing these guys did, and then the referee(s) decide on the punishment, working within those rules.

But can we shoot it off and let him bleed to death? Is that in the rules somewhere?
Can I get a copy?

Sundae · 05-06-2010, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by rditlkustoleit

Jungle Justice baby! That means being subject to the swift laws of cause and effect.
You invade a pride of lions and violate one of their young, your going to be eaten - period.

The "choice" to commit predatory crimes creates the causes to forfeit one's life.

Predators such as these have a "hard wiring" issue that cannot be corrected, rehabilitated, etc. Their death benefits all, while their continued existence does not.

Therefore, we help protect the gene pool and thin the herd.

There is a trend towards that kind of behaviour. A male lion taking over the pride kills all the cubs, so that the females immediately go into heat and all new cubs are born with his genes. Stepfathers (offical or common-law) are FAR more likely to kill or abuse children who do not carry their genes.

Law of the jungle, baby.

rditlkustoleit · 05-06-2010, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Sundae Girl

There is a trend towards that kind of behaviour. A male lion taking over the pride kills all the cubs, so that the females immediately go into heat and all new cubs are born with his genes. Stepfathers (offical or common-law) are FAR more likely to kill or abuse children who do not carry their genes.

Law of the jungle, baby.

Completely different set of circumstances/variables/causation, therefore, different effect than I was describing.

However, as an experiment, I just engaged a pride of lions, killed the alpha-male and all cubs.

Although I gave it my most sincere effort, I can assure you that none of the felines wanted to have sex with me...

Again.

I couldn't even impress them with my user name!?

05-05-2010, 05:30 PM	#2
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Castration? No. Single bullet - yup. . . or maybe just cut his d*ck off and let him bleed to death. There is no reason someone who does something like this should be on this planet another moment. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

05-05-2010, 05:49 PM	#3
Cloud ... Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,360	ya gotta wonder how people live with themselves __________________ "Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards!"

05-05-2010, 07:06 PM	#4
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Kill him. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

05-06-2010, 03:21 AM	#5
GunMaster357 Professor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Brest (FRANCE) Posts: 1,837	If they ever find a DNA match, gimme a gun and I'll happily do him. That kind of person has nothing to do in this world. __________________ "War is God's way of teaching Americans geography." - Ambrose Bierce

05-06-2010, 07:06 AM	#9
rditlkustoleit Violator of Customs Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 49	Jungle Justice baby! That means being subject to the swift laws of cause and effect. You invade a pride of lions and violate one of their young, your going to be eaten - period. The "choice" to commit predatory crimes creates the causes to forfeit one's life. Predators such as these have a "hard wiring" issue that cannot be corrected, rehabilitated, etc. Their death benefits all, while their continued existence does not. Therefore, we help protect the gene pool and thin the herd. __________________ If we're not supposed to eat animals, why are they made out of meat?!

05-06-2010, 05:24 AM	#6
Sundae polaroid of perfection Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 24,185	Depends where he lives I suppose. If it's in California he'd end up locked away in Coalinga for the rest of his life, even after serving the sentence passed down by a judge. With no legal recourse for release even if he agrees to chemical castration. Enforced imprisonment outside the legal system with no hope of release. You don't get that for raping a girl over 16. You generally don't get that if you rape and murder her. Obviously I'm not pro-paedophilia, but I think there are some places where laws are at least as harsh as they need to be.

05-06-2010, 06:27 AM	#8
Sundae polaroid of perfection Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 24,185	Dani did you hear about the sentence for the man murdering his 5 day old daughter handed out today? Five years. Slammed her down on a changing table first time he was left alone with her. I'm not making any point here. I'm just saying.

05-06-2010, 07:28 AM	#10
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	I think there should be some sort of system where people like this are charged with the crime, and the police get to show the evidence they have that these guys did it, and these guys get a chance to show it wasn't actually them, and then someone, or a group of people act as a sort of referee where they decide if they are pretty sure that the guy did it or not. And then they look at how bad the thing was that the guy did, and then they look at what the rules are for the punishments you give for the kind of bad thing these guys did, and then the referee(s) decide on the punishment, working within those rules. And I think it should be a calm and thoughtful process where these referee(s) use their minds. Oh, and these referees, they shouldn't be a bunch of snooty rich people. They should be regular people.

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