Intolerance

[Spexxvet]

TACOMA, Wash. - Rick Santorum said on Monday that the Occupy movement represents "true intolerance" after he was faced with a handful of angry protestors who shouted through his entire event, ultimately resulting in the arrest of three of them.

Is fighting oppression itolerance? Was Lincoln intolerant when he freed the slaves? Was MLK jr intolerant when he fought racial discrimination.

Santorum is way out of line.

[infinite monkey]

He needs to go back up the rear-end he dripped out of.

[Rhianne]

I can't tolerate intolerant people.

[footfootfoot]

Originally Posted by Rhianne

I can't tolerate intolerant people.

Ugh, I know what you mean. I can't stand them either.

[wolf]

I'm trying to understand the dynamic here ... Conservatives and the Tea Party types are intolerant, but Occupy, the folks who destroy Starbucks at Global Whatchamacallit Summit Riots, and those idiots who throw pies at famous/powerful/rich people are merely expressing their opinion? Am I getting this right?

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by wolf

I'm trying to understand the dynamic here ... Conservatives and the Tea Party types are intolerant, but Occupy, the folks who destroy Starbucks at Global Whatchamacallit Summit Riots, and those idiots who throw pies at famous/powerful/rich people are merely expressing their opinion? Am I getting this right?

[SamIam]

Originally Posted by wolf

I'm trying to understand the dynamic here ... Conservatives and the Tea Party types are intolerant, but Occupy, the folks who destroy Starbucks at Global Whatchamacallit Summit Riots, and those idiots who throw pies at famous/powerful/rich people are merely expressing their opinion? Am I getting this right?

So... Are you one of those Starbucks supporter crazies? Hmmmmmm? You and Merc new best friends forever now?

Besides my side is right and everyone else's is stupid.

[piercehawkeye45]

Originally Posted by wolf

I'm trying to understand the dynamic here ... Conservatives and the Tea Party types are intolerant, but Occupy, the folks who destroy Starbucks at Global Whatchamacallit Summit Riots, and those idiots who throw pies at famous/powerful/rich people are merely expressing their opinion? Am I getting this right?

Or maybe entire movements can't be generalized the way we would like them to be generalized?

Tea Party is seen as intolerant because of a select few people and actions. People call the tea party intolerant because they want the tea party to be intolerant, therefore they make inaccurate generalizations.

Occupy Wall Street is seen as intolerant because of a select few people and actions. People call the Occupy Wall Street intolerant because they want the Occupy Wall Street to be intolerant, therefore they make inaccurate generalizations.


I disagree with what the protestors did to Santorum. By 'exercising' their right to free speech, they took it other people's rights as well. They then justify it by claiming their political positions are superior to everyone's at the Santorum rally. Immature.

[TheMercenary]

I am still trying to get someone from the Occupy folks to tell me who from their movement is going to get elected to Congress in 2012.

[SamIam]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

I am still trying to get someone from the Occupy folks to tell me who from their movement is going to get elected to Congress in 2012.

Well, its a movement - not a political party, so why should they necessarily put up someone for Congress? There are a few candidates out there seeking to affiliate themselves with Occupy. Whether these people will become serious contenders remains to be seen.

Meanwhile, Occupy does have a political PAC.

[Stormieweather]

As long as there is freedom in HOW members of an organization are allowed to express themselves, there will always be members who make asses of themselves (and thus, reflect badly on the organization). That's sort of a given.

If the entire organization (or majority) echoes this bad behavior or adopts it, then it's reasonable to assign such attitude to the organization as a whole.

Otherwise, no.

I do think that shouting down someone trying to speak is rude and not at all tolerant. Wait, who said Occupy was supposed to be tolerant? Anyway, it's JUST as rude to mock, deride and ridicule a group that doesn't fit your neatly defined idea of "how it should be".

In my opinion, of course.

[classicman]

Originally Posted by SamIam

Meanwhile, Occupy does have a political PAC.

or do they? Cross-thread discussion perhaps, but who is this?

DISCLAIMER:

We will be creating a clear statement of non-political disclosure making it clear that Occupy Politics does not endorse or support any Political Organization, Group, or Candidate.

We do not endorse candidates.

All links and listings of organizations or groups is only to inform the movement and public of what is happening in relationship with the movement, not to endorse or support it. It is up to Local GA’s and individuals to decide if they want to support any individual organization, legislation, groups, candidates, or anything else. This website is only intended to give broad access to information so that individuals are better able to make decisions for themselves.

This has Not Been Approved by any Occupy Politics General Meeting.

Also OccupyPolitics.info is not directly affiliated with the Occupy Politics PAC. They were set up independently and serve different needs, although there are individuals who are involved in both organizations.

http://occupypolitics.info/we-do-not-endorse/

[Ibby]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

I am still trying to get someone from the Occupy folks to tell me who from their movement is going to get elected to Congress in 2012.

Elizabeth Warren, for one. What do you mean by "from their movement"? Warren may not have been out camping with them, but she is one of the politicians whose ideology is most closely aligned with theirs.

[classicman]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

I am still trying to get someone from the Occupy folks to tell me who from their movement is going to get elected to Congress in 2012.

The easy answer is - They haven't decided yet.
Seems you have something in common with them after all.

So far they have created a group called "Occupy the Congress" which was set up to collect funds for candidates who support the Occupy protesters and the 99%ers.
Link here if you care to donate.

As far as candidates from within Occupy -

Nathan Kleinman, a 29-year-old member of the Occupy Philadelphia movement, intends to run for congress in Pennsylvania’s 13th district against Democratic incumbent Allyson Schwartz.

“The petition gathering period starts today and lasts for three weeks, so I plan to file by then,” Kleinman told me over the phone today. “I’ll be running in the Democratic primary.”

Kleinman, who refers to himself as a human rights activist and organizer, served as an aide to Joe Sestak’s unsuccessful 2010 Senate campaign before becoming a legislative assistant to Pennsylvania State Representative Josh Shapiro.

More recently, he has been a member of the Occupy Philadelphia movement, participating in a number of associated working groups, including “Free University,” “Outreach Working Group,” “Process Working Group,” “Camp Liberty,” and “The Committee of Correspondence,” through which he became involved with InterOccupy.org, which he describes as “a central hub for communications” in the national Occupy movement.

Now, he plans to campaign for the House of Representatives, which would make him the first member of the Occupy movement to seek a seat in Congress.

You may be surprised to find out that he is running against Allyson Schwartz (D).

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by classicman

The easy answer is - They haven't decided yet.
Seems you have something in common with them after all.