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View Poll Results: Christmas Troll
It's all good, 1 20.00%
It pisses me off but I won't say anything. 0 0%
You, Griff are a worse troll. 2 40.00%
He doesn't know he's trolling, ignore it. 2 40.00%
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Old 12-24-2013, 04:29 PM   #1
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Christmas Trolling?

Should we be trolling dwellars on Christmas Eve using peoples' real pain as cover for our, arguably, false beliefs? I watched The Book Thief the other night so I may be over-sensitized to the use of manipulation to protect a message. Am I a troll for saying something?
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Old 12-24-2013, 06:01 PM   #2
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I'm not sure what the question is.
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Old 12-24-2013, 06:42 PM   #3
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I don't understand. Clarification please?

And a Merry Christmas to you, wishes for a lovely holiday no matter what your beliefs. No trolls here.
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Old 12-24-2013, 07:04 PM   #4
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I'm too busy looking for Christmas trolloping to notice.

I verbed that noun for just for Christmas.

Oops, I did it again.
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Old 12-24-2013, 08:30 PM   #5
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I think I don't get it. That is all.
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Old 12-25-2013, 10:12 AM   #6
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Christmas trollops...Now that's something I could get behind.

You know, so-to-speak.
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Old 12-25-2013, 10:16 AM   #7
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Ha! Fnarr fnarr.
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Old 12-27-2013, 11:08 PM   #8
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Should we be trolling dwellars on Christmas Eve using peoples' real pain as cover for our, arguably, false beliefs? I watched The Book Thief the other night so I may be over-sensitized to the use of manipulation to protect a message. Am I a troll for saying something?
I'm wondering what about The Book Thief (which I haven't seen) prompted your reaction?
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Old 12-28-2013, 09:03 AM   #9
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You should check it out. It was the over-all atmosphere of Germany during this period where people are afraid to push back against wrong-headed cultural norms for fear of getting on a list. Here its more enforced by social forces, any questioning of military incursions over-seas are turned into attacks on the men and women of the armed forces. Its pretty clear that we are less safe because of our militarism, but we don't challenge that for fear of revealing that the terrible life sacrifices made by our soldiers were counter-productive.
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Old 12-28-2013, 10:18 AM   #10
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You should check it out. It was the over-all atmosphere of Germany during this period where people are afraid to push back against wrong-headed cultural norms for fear of getting on a list. Here its more enforced by social forces, any questioning of military incursions over-seas are turned into attacks on the men and women of the armed forces. Its pretty clear that we are less safe because of our militarism, but we don't challenge that for fear of revealing that the terrible life sacrifices made by our soldiers were counter-productive.

One thing many people underestimate are the resources behind the motivation of the people in power. To be clear I am not referring to any of the elected or quasi-elected figureheads/ corporate puppets.
Simply put, they have a better PR machine directed at a population fairly incapable of critical thinking.

If I feel stupid and am in the top 5% intelligence, then what chance is there that the rest of the country is going to grok there is no connection between saddam Hussein and WTC or that the one vocal opponent to an Iraq incursion because there were no WMDs, thereby negating billions of dollars in profit to be chyle, Halliburton, et al, also happens conveniently to be found out to be into kiddie porn? Therefore, ad hominem, everything he says is a lie. Let's not wonder how someone achieves that level of security clearance and is into kiddie porn.

Did any of that make sense, or did I sound like I was channelling tw?

In conclusion, the corporate PR machine has successfully conflated
"Support our troops" with "don't criticize the government.

This is the local hand basket, express is on the other side of the platform.
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Old 12-28-2013, 10:23 AM   #11
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Makes sense to me.
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Old 12-28-2013, 09:20 AM   #12
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Godwin invoked
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Old 12-28-2013, 09:31 AM   #13
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Now now, you should have played the Godwin card in response to post one.

The last post was a direct response to a question.
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Old 12-28-2013, 09:33 AM   #14
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I was supposed to see the film in order to know that
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Old 12-28-2013, 09:35 AM   #15
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Or, read the book. It's a good one.
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