Border Security

[Big Sarge]

We have got to secure our border!! Illegals are streaming across willy-nilly. They don't speak the language. Arghhhhhh!!!!! I could go on & on about this for hours.

How hard can it be to build a wall?? Hadrian did it. The Chinese did it. They had a great one in Berlin. If we can send a man to the moon 45 years ago, why can't we string a little high voltage wire?? At the very least, we could dig a ditch and throw in some gators.

This is a very, very serious problem. I seriously would like to see troops deployed on the border and we start treating this like a foreign invasion.

[DanaC]

An invasion of unaccompanied children?

[Rhianne]

For me, it should be the drawing of lines on maps that is illegal, not the people crossing them.

[sexobon]

Put all those kids on planes and send them to England (to learn English of course).

[Griff]

It's my understanding that those dirty Irish are flying directly into Anglo-America. Maybe we need DNA testing.

[tw]

Eliminate the problem - wacko extremist rhetoric in Washington DC - and border problems are immediately solved. Suddenly all those people we need for the jobs and who need those jobs become productive migrant workers. No more border problems created by 'we fear others' rhetoric in Washington.

Eliminate hype and half truths, then border crime is closer to zero. Eliminate draconian drug laws, and border crimes diminishes massively. Blaming immigrants for what drug cartels do is a popular extermist sound byte.

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by Big Sarge

We have got to secure our border!! Illegals are streaming across willy-nilly. They don't speak the language. Arghhhhhh!!!!! I could go on & on about this for hours.

How hard can it be to build a wall?? Hadrian did it. The Chinese did it. They had a great one in Berlin. If we can send a man to the moon 45 years ago, why can't we string a little high voltage wire?? At the very least, we could dig a ditch and throw in some gators.

This is a very, very serious problem. I seriously would like to see troops deployed on the border and we start treating this like a foreign invasion.

Please go on, Sarge. I'd like to hear what the big deal is.

[Big Sarge]

Face the facts:
1. They are committing a crime that is punishable by prison in many countries.
2. They are a drain on our medical and social services.
3. They are bringing diseases that were thoroughly suppressed in our country. Many of our parents don't vaccinate their children. This might come back to haunt them.
4. The Brits don't need to say anything about this. Your country is very anti-immigration. Only the Left Unity Party seems to support it.
5. If things are so bad back home, why don't they apply for asylum through the proper legal channels.
6. Please don't give me the crap about Native Americans. We conquered them and this became our homeland. In Great Britain, the Romans, Anglo-Saxons, and Normans were all conquering peoples. At least we set up reservations for ours and let them have casinos.

Finally, I know we have at least one person on here who I think crossed over illegally. I'm just about pissed enough to blow their real identity!!!

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by Big Sarge

Face the facts:
...
2. They are a drain on our medical and social services.
3. They are bringing diseases that were thoroughly suppressed in our country. Many of our parents don't vaccinate their children. This might come back to haunt them.
...
5. If things are so bad back home, why don't they apply for asylum through the proper legal channels.
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This disputes your facts with other facts.
http://www.immigrationpolicy.org/hig...ut-immigration

Personally, I have a bigger issue with the Asians (Indians and Chinese) who come in on H-1B visas and take high paying, high skill jobs. Many stay beyond their legal period. Where's the outrage about them?

[Big Sarge]

Originally Posted by Spexxvet

This disputes your facts with other facts.
http://www.immigrationpolicy.org/hig...ut-immigration

Personally, I have a bigger issue with the Asians (Indians and Chinese) who come in on H-1B visas and take high paying, high skill jobs. Many stay beyond their legal period. Where's the outrage about them?

The first thing that comes to mind is that they are productive members of society who at least crossed our borders legally. For the rest, I will have to let my blood pressure go down before I can respond

[DanaC]

4. The Brits don't need to say anything about this. Your country is very anti-immigration. Only the Left Unity Party seems to support it.

yes, our country is very anti-immigration. An attitude I deplore and argue against. If I was on here saying I wanted tighter controls on immigration, then I wuoldn;t have a leg to stand on criticising you for your anti-immigration stance.

But I am not. I criticise my country's anti-immigration stance and I criticise your anti-immigration stance.

Tell you what though: there aren't hordes of angry, screaming, sign waving adults waiting to greet busloads of scared children over here.


Oh and the Left Unity Party is barely on the political radar of this country. There are other parties with much less rabid anti-immigration attitudes, such as the Green Party which are much more prominent.

[Big Sarge]

The Left Unity Party is probably the only hope for your nation. The reason you don't have protesters is you are on a friggin island and folks have to swim to get there. You basically have no ethnic diversity with more than 87% of the populace bring white

[DanaC]

I didn't say we don't have protesters. I said they aren't screaming at busloads of scared children.

Mind you. Unaccompanied child migrants and asylum seekers fare badly in the UK.

As i say - we treat immigrants and asylum seekers pretty badly here. Worse with each passing year as attitudes harden in the face of a constant barrage of anti-immigration press reports.

And yeah - we're an island - know what that means? Lots of coastline. Proportionate to the US there are plenty of people trying to gain access illegally. Probably because, as with the US - legal entry is difficult unless you are white and have money.

[fargon]

The problem as I see it, is why is their country so bad? That people are sending their children here to an uncertain future. We may need to take better care of our neighbors. Do what we tried to do in Iraq and Afghanistan.

[elSicomoro]

I don't think we should be taking out such vitriol on kids.