Is Sigma Nu an especially rapey fraternity?

footfootfoot · 08-15-2015, 09:13 PM

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...ef=mostpopular

When I was at UVM in the mid 80s Simga Nu was shut down for a while because they raped some girl(s) passed out on booze.

I've always associated Sigma Nu with rape, well, all fraternities really, but Sigma Nu seems to pop up in rape cases more frequently.

gvidas · 08-15-2015, 09:50 PM

Having not even bothered read the above linked article, I doubt they are any more rapey than the others. Men, especially in groups, are pretty rapey.

From the "I like bleak books and I cannot lie" dept, I recently picked up Missoula. Great book. Pretty damn bleak. Illuminating tho.

My takeaway from the book was that our (western, American) general understanding of trauma and truth tends to fuck over rape victims. Add a bit of intense tribalism (fraternities, sports teams, etc) and give the elders of that tribe some influence in the news, politics, or law, and the rape victims are basically fucked two or three more times on the way down.

xoxoxoBruce · 08-15-2015, 10:06 PM

I went to the link, but it's an audio recording of poor quality, and I can't understand how many people are talking, some at the same time, or what they are saying. The circumstances it was recorded under makes me wonder how much is true and how much is alcohol fueled macho bullshit. I've witnessed cases where a guy gets a hand job at the drive-in movie and later is all, yeah, I fucked that bitch six ways to Sunday.

Lamplighter · 08-16-2015, 10:04 AM

I haven't read the book, but in the radio interview the author emphasized
the problem was primarily the District Attorney who would not prosecute,
but used various (intimidating) tactics to turn the girls/women away from going to trial.

classicman · 09-01-2015, 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gvidas

Men, especially in groups, are pretty rapey.

WTF?!?!?!? Um, no.

it · 08-17-2015, 03:11 PM

I would actually guess that they are - there's a reason this sort of thing is shocking in the first place.

And seriously, as this happened to anyone? How often have you hang with a group of guys and see a passed out woman and they go "yay lets all take turns fucking her!"? I've been to parties, but I've never actually seen that. I have seen and had the opposite reaction - seen a passed out friend of ours and taking her back to her place.

DanaC · 08-17-2015, 04:03 PM

They don't just think it and do it...they think it, do it and then post happy snaps about it on facebook.

elSicomoro · 08-22-2015, 01:08 PM

They were the nerdy fraternity when I went to Southeast Missouri State...I actually considered pledging them.

it · 08-27-2015, 03:47 PM

So what you are saying is... They were friendzoned?

08-15-2015, 09:13 PM	#1
footfootfoot To shreds, you say? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in the house and on the street-how many, many feet we meet! Posts: 18,449	Is Sigma Nu an especially rapey fraternity? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...ef=mostpopular When I was at UVM in the mid 80s Simga Nu was shut down for a while because they raped some girl(s) passed out on booze. I've always associated Sigma Nu with rape, well, all fraternities really, but Sigma Nu seems to pop up in rape cases more frequently. __________________ The internet is a hateful stew of vomit you can never take completely seriously. - Her Fobs

08-15-2015, 10:06 PM	#3
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	I went to the link, but it's an audio recording of poor quality, and I can't understand how many people are talking, some at the same time, or what they are saying. The circumstances it was recorded under makes me wonder how much is true and how much is alcohol fueled macho bullshit. I've witnessed cases where a guy gets a hand job at the drive-in movie and later is all, yeah, I fucked that bitch six ways to Sunday. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

08-15-2015, 09:50 PM	#2
gvidas Hoodoo Guru Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 286	Having not even bothered read the above linked article, I doubt they are any more rapey than the others. Men, especially in groups, are pretty rapey. From the "I like bleak books and I cannot lie" dept, I recently picked up Missoula. Great book. Pretty damn bleak. Illuminating tho. My takeaway from the book was that our (western, American) general understanding of trauma and truth tends to fuck over rape victims. Add a bit of intense tribalism (fraternities, sports teams, etc) and give the elders of that tribe some influence in the news, politics, or law, and the rape victims are basically fucked two or three more times on the way down.

08-16-2015, 10:04 AM	#4
Lamplighter Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Bottom lands of the Missoula floods Posts: 6,402	I haven't read the book, but in the radio interview the author emphasized the problem was primarily the District Attorney who would not prosecute, but used various (intimidating) tactics to turn the girls/women away from going to trial.

08-17-2015, 03:11 PM	#6
it Banned Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 772	I would actually guess that they are - there's a reason this sort of thing is shocking in the first place. And seriously, as this happened to anyone? How often have you hang with a group of guys and see a passed out woman and they go "yay lets all take turns fucking her!"? I've been to parties, but I've never actually seen that. I have seen and had the opposite reaction - seen a passed out friend of ours and taking her back to her place.

08-22-2015, 01:08 PM	#8
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	They were the nerdy fraternity when I went to Southeast Missouri State...I actually considered pledging them.

08-27-2015, 03:47 PM	#9
it Banned Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 772	So what you are saying is... They were friendzoned?

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