Think about this...

Zathris · 10-13-2015, 01:15 AM

Gravdigr · 10-13-2015, 12:21 PM

And spoons make people fat.

xoxoxoBruce · 10-13-2015, 03:14 PM

Gun Free America?

Step 1: Elect.
For a gun-free America, the first thing you’ll need is two-thirds of Congress. So elect a minimum of 67 Senators and 290 Representatives who are on your side.

Step 2: Propose.
Then, have them vote to propose an amendment to the Constitution which repeals Second Amendment gun rights for all Americans.

Step 3: Ratify.
Then convince the legislators of 38 states to ratify that change.
At this point, the Second Amendment is history, but you’ve done nothing to decrease gun violence. All you’ve done is remove the barrier for Congress to act.

Step 4: Legislate.
You need to enact “common sense” reform. You can try what Australia did… ban all guns? That’s not at all they did, but whatever. Go big or go home, right?
It will have to be passed by Congress and signed by the president.
Great! The law is passed and guns are now illegal. The only thing left to do is…

Step 5: Enforce.
Guns won’t just disappear because you passed a law. You need to confiscate some 350 million guns scattered among 330 Million Americans.
Sure, you can try a buy-back, like Australia, but like Australia that will still leave behind anywhere from 60 percent to 80 percent of privately owned firearms.
The rest you have to take.

You’ll need all the King’s horses and all the King’s men… the police, the FBI, the ATF, the NSA, and/or the National Guard—all known for their nuanced approach to potentially dangerous situations—to go door-to-door, through 3.8 million square miles of this country and take guns, by force, from thousands, if not millions, of well-armed individuals.
Many of whom would rather start a civil war than acquiesce.

So inevitably gun violence, which is currently at a historic low, will skyrocket.

Lamplighter · 10-13-2015, 04:09 PM

...which proves that doing nothing is so much better.

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monster · 10-13-2015, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Gravdigr

And spoons make people fat.

Can one spoonful of food make someone obese?

Lamplighter · 10-13-2015, 10:02 PM

Well done !

Sundae · 10-14-2015, 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by monster

Can one spoonful of food make someone obese?

Maybe the last spoonful.
Or maybe it's like AA - it's the first spoon that makes you obese.

Sorry, not contributing the the debate here (I did like your point.)

Happy Monkey · 10-13-2015, 04:21 PM

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Step 5: Enforce.
Guns won’t just disappear because you passed a law. You need to confiscate some 350 million guns scattered among 330 Million Americans.
Sure, you can try a buy-back, like Australia, but like Australia that will still leave behind anywhere from 60 percent to 80 percent of privately owned firearms.
The rest you have to take.

... as they appear during the course of other events. You don't actually have to seek them out.

xoxoxoBruce · 10-14-2015, 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

... as they appear during the course of other events. You don't actually have to seek them out.

Then it won't be a "gun free" America.

Happy Monkey · 10-14-2015, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Then it won't be a "gun free" America.

It wouldn't be, either way, so skip it.

xoxoxoBruce · 10-14-2015, 01:04 PM

What? How dare you not cheer for one pole or the other. What are you some kind of compromiser, middlegrounder, that's un-American.

classicman · 10-14-2015, 10:13 AM

OK, I'll bite ...
1) What a fucking stupid argument.
2) Which gun advocates want some dickhead shooting an unknown target in the middle of the night without having any idea what/who it is? I'll wait.
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henry quirk · 10-14-2015, 10:26 AM

https://homemadeguns.wordpress.com/

Folks in America can do whatever the hell they like and can about guns, including takin' 'em away (by force), and those who want 'em will find a way.

As I said a long time back, in another thread: Pandora's armory opened its doors wide ages ago and those doors won't ever be shut again.

But, no worries: keep workin' the culture...with consistent effort, eventually 'gun' will be a dirty word, guns will inspire revulsion in any- and every-one, and only throwbacks will want them (and throwbacks will be segregated in 'preserves' away from all the decent folk...or, they'll be dead).

Huzzah! Huzzah! Utopia is just around the corner!

Happy Monkey · 10-14-2015, 01:19 PM

Replace step 5 with "Treat guns like we treat ivory."

xoxoxoBruce · 10-14-2015, 01:40 PM

Ivory? Do you mean old guns are OK, but no new ones? That won't satisfy either pole.

Steps 1 through 4 is what it takes to change the legal standing, but that puts us in the middle. I don't see that happening, at least in my lifetime, but who knows. However at that point both poles are unhappy. Make that one is unhappy and the other furious.

It would take step 5 to satisfy the Gun-Free pole, but isn't going to happen.

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10-13-2015, 03:14 PM	#3
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Gun Free America? Step 1: Elect. For a gun-free America, the first thing you’ll need is two-thirds of Congress. So elect a minimum of 67 Senators and 290 Representatives who are on your side. Step 2: Propose. Then, have them vote to propose an amendment to the Constitution which repeals Second Amendment gun rights for all Americans. Step 3: Ratify. Then convince the legislators of 38 states to ratify that change. At this point, the Second Amendment is history, but you’ve done nothing to decrease gun violence. All you’ve done is remove the barrier for Congress to act. Step 4: Legislate. You need to enact “common sense” reform. You can try what Australia did… ban all guns? That’s not at all they did, but whatever. Go big or go home, right? It will have to be passed by Congress and signed by the president. Great! The law is passed and guns are now illegal. The only thing left to do is… Step 5: Enforce. Guns won’t just disappear because you passed a law. You need to confiscate some 350 million guns scattered among 330 Million Americans. Sure, you can try a buy-back, like Australia, but like Australia that will still leave behind anywhere from 60 percent to 80 percent of privately owned firearms. The rest you have to take. You’ll need all the King’s horses and all the King’s men… the police, the FBI, the ATF, the NSA, and/or the National Guard—all known for their nuanced approach to potentially dangerous situations—to go door-to-door, through 3.8 million square miles of this country and take guns, by force, from thousands, if not millions, of well-armed individuals. Many of whom would rather start a civil war than acquiesce. So inevitably gun violence, which is currently at a historic low, will skyrocket. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

10-14-2015, 01:04 PM	#11
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	What? How dare you not cheer for one pole or the other. What are you some kind of compromiser, middlegrounder, that's un-American. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

10-14-2015, 10:13 AM	#12
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	OK, I'll bite ... 1) What a fucking stupid argument. 2) Which gun advocates want some dickhead shooting an unknown target in the middle of the night without having any idea what/who it is? I'll wait. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any answer other than NONE means YOU have no fucking clue what you are talking about. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

10-13-2015, 04:09 PM	#4
Lamplighter Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Bottom lands of the Missoula floods Posts: 6,402	...which proves that doing nothing is so much better. .

10-13-2015, 10:02 PM	#6
Lamplighter Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Bottom lands of the Missoula floods Posts: 6,402	Well done !

10-14-2015, 10:26 AM	#13
henry quirk maskless: yesterday, today, tomorrow Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,162	a throwback sez... https://homemadeguns.wordpress.com/ Folks in America can do whatever the hell they like and can about guns, including takin' 'em away (by force), and those who want 'em will find a way. As I said a long time back, in another thread: Pandora's armory opened its doors wide ages ago and those doors won't ever be shut again. But, no worries: keep workin' the culture...with consistent effort, eventually 'gun' will be a dirty word, guns will inspire revulsion in any- and every-one, and only throwbacks will want them (and throwbacks will be segregated in 'preserves' away from all the decent folk...or, they'll be dead). Huzzah! Huzzah! Utopia is just around the corner!

10-14-2015, 01:19 PM	#14
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	Replace step 5 with "Treat guns like we treat ivory." __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

10-14-2015, 01:40 PM	#15
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Ivory? Do you mean old guns are OK, but no new ones? That won't satisfy either pole. Steps 1 through 4 is what it takes to change the legal standing, but that puts us in the middle. I don't see that happening, at least in my lifetime, but who knows. However at that point both poles are unhappy. Make that one is unhappy and the other furious. It would take step 5 to satisfy the Gun-Free pole, but isn't going to happen. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

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