July 13th, 2016: Batteries

xoxoxoBruce · 07-12-2016, 10:53 PM

..........♫ Batteries,
............ Corroding in land fills. ♪
..........♫ Brightly colored batteries,
............ Of the way we were. ♪

..........♫ Flashbulb pictures,
............ Of electric toys we left behind. ♪
..........♫ Toys we gave to one another,
............ For the way we were. ♪

Thank god we've stopped that crazy wasteful fascination for electric toys and gadgets.
For awhile I was afraid we'd have huge batteries in the walls of our houses, maybe even on our airplanes or in our cars.

Degrees · 07-13-2016, 08:26 AM

I can go about 30 miles on electric-only. 23 if the air conditioning is on (which it must, here in summer).

Diaphone Jim · 07-13-2016, 11:32 AM

Finally spotted the Ray-O-Vac.
I had a flashlight with Safeway Stores batteries that leaked and ruined the finish of a nice table.
Safeway denied any culpability since they did not make them.
Turned out they were made by Ray-O-Vac whose products for decades have carried the slogan "Never Leak!"

Gravdigr · 07-13-2016, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Diaphone Jim

Finally spotted the Ray-O-Vac.

I was looking for the Eveready with the black cat on it.

Found it.

Carruthers · 07-14-2016, 02:28 PM

A few days ago I was struggling with some electronic piece of kit and thinking how simple life was when almost everything that didn't plug into a wall socket, was powered by a couple of U2 batteries.
Now there is a bewildering number of formats, sizes, useful life and Heaven knows what else. Oh, and prices, of course.
Rechargeables seem to be available as NiCd, NiMH and Li-Ion varieties with LiFePo4 starting to make an appearance.
Each seems to have its own characteristics and has to be handled differently to other rechargeables.
Li-Ion batteries come with dire safety warnings about how they should be used and maintained for fear of them catching fire.
I understand that they are prohibited from being carried as freight on commercial passenger flights due to safety concerns.

Why are things so complicated?

sexobon · 07-15-2016, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Carruthers

... Why are things so complicated?

Because we went with button batteries instead of zipper batteries.

Snakeadelic · 07-18-2016, 09:04 AM

I saw a scary kind of battery on my Gallivant Westward! (My neighbor and I go to Portland and a couple other places in Oregon every summer to visit families.) After like six years of sniveling about it, I finally got a chance to go to the "new" Oregon Museum of Science & Industry campus, the one they moved to in 1992. While there I toured the USS Blueback, the last diesel-engine sub in the US fleet until it was decommissioned. The diesel engines could, of course, only be used when the ship was at surface. When underwater, it relied on some downright terrifying batteries! The tour guide described them as lead-acid batteries, and one of the 504 from the belly of the boat had been set up in a little cordoned-off nook. It stood about 3 feet tall and was maybe 12 inches wide and deep. And the note on it says each one of those 504 lead-acid batteries weighs 1200 pounds. I'm astonished the sub could surface at all!

Diaphone Jim · 07-19-2016, 06:22 PM

I hope Bruce is not ill, but just taking a few days off.

lumberjim · 07-19-2016, 06:29 PM

SPUCK · 08-23-2016, 02:42 AM

Snake; Is that museum in Portland? I looked across the river and saw a sub tied up at the dock.

BigV · 08-23-2016, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SPUCK

Snake; Is that museum in Portland? I looked across the river and saw a sub tied up at the dock.

I've been onboard that boat. Very very cramped.

Griff · 08-24-2016, 06:16 AM

Speaking of batteries.
https://www.tesla.com/blog/new-tesla...tion-car-world
0-60 in 2.5

glatt · 08-24-2016, 07:34 AM

That car's doing 60 in less time than it took you to finish this sentence.

BigV · 08-24-2016, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Griff

Speaking of batteries.
https://www.tesla.com/blog/new-tesla...tion-car-world
0-60 in 2.5

I heard that on the radio yesterday. D. A. M. N.

I've driven one, not that model, and the car just GOES. No drama or excitement, just acceleration. No wheelspin, no smoke, no exhaust roar, it's weird. Exhilarating, but weird.

0 to. 60 in 2.5. Holy smokes.

SPUCK · 08-25-2016, 02:16 AM

I wonder if it will deliver your face to the side of the semi trailer faster now too?

07-12-2016, 10:53 PM	#1
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	July 13th, 2016: Batteries ..........♫ Batteries, ............ Corroding in land fills. ♪ ..........♫ Brightly colored batteries, ............ Of the way we were. ♪ ..........♫ Flashbulb pictures, ............ Of electric toys we left behind. ♪ ..........♫ Toys we gave to one another, ............ For the way we were. ♪ Thank god we've stopped that crazy wasteful fascination for electric toys and gadgets. For awhile I was afraid we'd have huge batteries in the walls of our houses, maybe even on our airplanes or in our cars. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

07-13-2016, 08:26 AM	#2
Degrees Resident Denizen Join Date: May 2001 Location: Visalia, CA Posts: 62	My car runs on 7.2 KVA of batteries I can go about 30 miles on electric-only. 23 if the air conditioning is on (which it must, here in summer).

07-14-2016, 02:28 PM	#5
Carruthers Junior Master Dwellar Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Buckinghamshire UK Posts: 4,059	A few days ago I was struggling with some electronic piece of kit and thinking how simple life was when almost everything that didn't plug into a wall socket, was powered by a couple of U2 batteries. Now there is a bewildering number of formats, sizes, useful life and Heaven knows what else. Oh, and prices, of course. Rechargeables seem to be available as NiCd, NiMH and Li-Ion varieties with LiFePo4 starting to make an appearance. Each seems to have its own characteristics and has to be handled differently to other rechargeables. Li-Ion batteries come with dire safety warnings about how they should be used and maintained for fear of them catching fire. I understand that they are prohibited from being carried as freight on commercial passenger flights due to safety concerns. Why are things so complicated? __________________

07-19-2016, 06:29 PM	#9
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	__________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

08-24-2016, 06:16 AM	#12
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	Speaking of batteries. https://www.tesla.com/blog/new-tesla...tion-car-world 0-60 in 2.5 __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

07-13-2016, 11:32 AM	#3
Diaphone Jim Junior Master Dwellar Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Northern California Posts: 2,122	Finally spotted the Ray-O-Vac. I had a flashlight with Safeway Stores batteries that leaked and ruined the finish of a nice table. Safeway denied any culpability since they did not make them. Turned out they were made by Ray-O-Vac whose products for decades have carried the slogan "Never Leak!"

07-18-2016, 09:04 AM	#7
Snakeadelic Banned Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 660	I saw a scary kind of battery on my Gallivant Westward! (My neighbor and I go to Portland and a couple other places in Oregon every summer to visit families.) After like six years of sniveling about it, I finally got a chance to go to the "new" Oregon Museum of Science & Industry campus, the one they moved to in 1992. While there I toured the USS Blueback, the last diesel-engine sub in the US fleet until it was decommissioned. The diesel engines could, of course, only be used when the ship was at surface. When underwater, it relied on some downright terrifying batteries! The tour guide described them as lead-acid batteries, and one of the 504 from the belly of the boat had been set up in a little cordoned-off nook. It stood about 3 feet tall and was maybe 12 inches wide and deep. And the note on it says each one of those 504 lead-acid batteries weighs 1200 pounds. I'm astonished the sub could surface at all!

07-19-2016, 06:22 PM	#8
Diaphone Jim Junior Master Dwellar Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Northern California Posts: 2,122	I hope Bruce is not ill, but just taking a few days off.

08-23-2016, 02:42 AM	#10
SPUCK Professor Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,911	Snake; Is that museum in Portland? I looked across the river and saw a sub tied up at the dock.

08-24-2016, 07:34 AM	#13
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	That car's doing 60 in less time than it took you to finish this sentence.

08-25-2016, 02:16 AM	#15
SPUCK Professor Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,911	I wonder if it will deliver your face to the side of the semi trailer faster now too?

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