This is a self-righteous judgement-free zone

Undertoad · 03-16-2019, 10:38 AM

As we grow closer to civil war, not even pregnant Chelsea Clinton is immune from the bitter, angry political side when it gets pumped up. When they run out of targets, they'll just viciously attack whatever target is available.

Snap if you agree (because clapping may be triggering)

The time of the reformation is at hand.

BigV · 03-16-2019, 11:02 AM

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I agree with the position of Donald Trump Jr. (a surprise to me). The angry woman confronting her is not making a valid, rational argument "49 people died because of the rhetoric you put out there" is not true. It's to Clinton's credit that she shows restraint in the face of a direct personal attack. I believe she's doing all that can be done in that moment, to listen, absorb, be present, and importantly, not resist or defend or deflect the (unfair) criticism of the woman and others around her.

*****

When people are angry, that powerful emotion can swamp everything else, including the impetus to more effective responses to the original problem that fired the anger. I've been in the angry woman's shoes--IT SUCKS. I've responded inappropriately and ineffectively; sometimes those responses were uncontrollable and very, very satisfying. For getting shit done though, for solving the problem, it's the wrong approach. Sometimes you have to clear the fucking bench before you can make progress on building something better. Anger can do that. But anger doesn't build, it destroys.

Undertoad · 03-16-2019, 11:23 AM

Agreed, Chelsea had exactly the right reaction. I hope she didn't absorb it though, she's pregnant!

That was a lesson I had to learn at the pawn shop: sometimes people are trying to make you have an emotional reaction, for their own motives. If they want to make you angry, or make you feel bad, and you actually react, you lose both ways. You lose in the transaction, and you lose because you took a lot of pain for no reason.

Gravdigr · 03-16-2019, 01:35 PM

It makes my day to make someone laugh, or even smile.

That's the reaction I'm provoking.

glatt · 03-16-2019, 03:21 PM

Keep posting swirl vids then

Gravdigr · 03-17-2019, 07:09 AM

glatt · 03-17-2019, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Gravdigr

Lol

Undertoad · 03-17-2019, 03:12 PM

They get their say

We Confronted Chelsea Clinton At The Christchurch Vigil. Here's Why.

TL;DR: We did it because she was unapologetically against Rep. Omar's statements about AIPAC and that inflamed anti-Muslim bigotry. This killer was spurned on by anti-Muslim hate running through our society, which Chelsea enables.

Killer: "Actually, I did it to inflame the culture war. Thanks for your participation."

xoxoxoBruce · 03-17-2019, 03:38 PM

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In their haste to defend Chelsea Clinton, people continue to vilify a Muslim woman for speaking her truth.

The speaker can't grasp the fact that her truth is not the truth.
Sadly there is no the truth, it's always from perspective.

Undertoad · 03-17-2019, 04:07 PM

It appears to be less of a reformation moment and more of a "dumb students gonna dumb" moment

sexobon · 03-17-2019, 06:17 PM

It's now clear to me that only Muslims can criticize other Muslims (e.g. Sunni vs Shiite). If an infidel criticizes a Muslim it can only be bigotry and the righteous have a duty to always spin it that way.

DanaC · 03-19-2019, 01:54 PM

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"dumb students gonna dumb"

I think that describes a huge proportion of the current culture war.

03-16-2019, 10:38 AM	#1
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	This is a self-righteous judgement-free zone As we grow closer to civil war, not even pregnant Chelsea Clinton is immune from the bitter, angry political side when it gets pumped up. When they run out of targets, they'll just viciously attack whatever target is available. Snap if you agree (because clapping may be triggering) The time of the reformation is at hand.

03-16-2019, 11:02 AM	#2
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	clipped from teh Google : I agree with the position of Donald Trump Jr. (a surprise to me). The angry woman confronting her is not making a valid, rational argument "49 people died because of the rhetoric you put out there" is not true. It's to Clinton's credit that she shows restraint in the face of a direct personal attack. I believe she's doing all that can be done in that moment, to listen, absorb, be present, and importantly, not resist or defend or deflect the (unfair) criticism of the woman and others around her. ***** When people are angry, that powerful emotion can swamp everything else, including the impetus to more effective responses to the original problem that fired the anger. I've been in the angry woman's shoes--IT SUCKS. I've responded inappropriately and ineffectively; sometimes those responses were uncontrollable and very, very satisfying. For getting shit done though, for solving the problem, it's the wrong approach. Sometimes you have to clear the fucking bench before you can make progress on building something better. Anger can do that. But anger doesn't build, it destroys. __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

03-16-2019, 01:35 PM	#4
Gravdigr The Un-Tuckian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: South Central...KY that is Posts: 39,517	It makes my day to make someone laugh, or even smile. That's the reaction I'm provoking. __________________ These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA, EPA, FBI, DEA, CDC, or FDIC. These statements are not intended to diagnose, cause, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. If you feel you have been harmed/offended by, or, disagree with any of the above statements or images, please feel free to fuck right off.

03-17-2019, 07:09 AM	#6
Gravdigr The Un-Tuckian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: South Central...KY that is Posts: 39,517	__________________ These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA, EPA, FBI, DEA, CDC, or FDIC. These statements are not intended to diagnose, cause, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. If you feel you have been harmed/offended by, or, disagree with any of the above statements or images, please feel free to fuck right off.

03-16-2019, 11:23 AM	#3
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Agreed, Chelsea had exactly the right reaction. I hope she didn't absorb it though, she's pregnant! That was a lesson I had to learn at the pawn shop: sometimes people are trying to make you have an emotional reaction, for their own motives. If they want to make you angry, or make you feel bad, and you actually react, you lose both ways. You lose in the transaction, and you lose because you took a lot of pain for no reason.

03-16-2019, 03:21 PM	#5
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	Keep posting swirl vids then

03-17-2019, 03:12 PM	#8
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	They get their say We Confronted Chelsea Clinton At The Christchurch Vigil. Here's Why. TL;DR: We did it because she was unapologetically against Rep. Omar's statements about AIPAC and that inflamed anti-Muslim bigotry. This killer was spurned on by anti-Muslim hate running through our society, which Chelsea enables. Killer: "Actually, I did it to inflame the culture war. Thanks for your participation."

03-17-2019, 04:07 PM	#10
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	It appears to be less of a reformation moment and more of a "dumb students gonna dumb" moment

03-17-2019, 06:17 PM	#11
sexobon I love it when a plan comes together. Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 9,793	It's now clear to me that only Muslims can criticize other Muslims (e.g. Sunni vs Shiite). If an infidel criticizes a Muslim it can only be bigotry and the righteous have a duty to always spin it that way.

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