2/24/2004: Pesticide spraying in Java

Undertoad · 02-24-2004, 02:20 PM

I was struck by this recent MSNBC pick. In our modern world, this would be a terrible violation of our rights. In Java, in poverty, getting rid of a disease means getting rid of the insects that spread it, and it looks like there's little choice in the matter.

I guess sometimes the firm hand of an authority is needed to prevent a spreading pestilence, even if it seems on the face of it to be a violation. This woman's grandchildren may get cancer in 20 years, but she and her family won't be wiped out this year.

Happy Monkey · 02-24-2004, 02:57 PM

Violation of rights? The whole DC area is sprayed for mosquitos/caterpillars, etc most summers. Pesticides fill the air in any farming area. The victim of a termite infestation (or their insurance) must have an exterminator over, or risk lawsuits from neighbors.

But the poor guy ought to have some sort of gas mask, and the family should be told to stay away for a while.

Leah · 02-24-2004, 03:15 PM

Hell, that's what I'm like when I see one little cockroach in my place, I spray it to death (until it's all white a foamy) then squash it before it runs away, I'm satisfied then.
I Hate any creepy crawly especially spiders.

jinx · 02-24-2004, 03:17 PM

jinx · 02-24-2004, 03:20 PM

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Originally posted by Leah
when I see one little cockroach in my place

Cockroach? I'd freakin' move.

Leah · 02-24-2004, 03:54 PM

Sydney is inundated with these horrible little critters. I just keep spraying and doing my bit for the ozone. I only have little ones, (not many but enough to make me puke). Some people have the huge flying ones the size if a hand.

It's the heat that brings them out. All insect sprays are selling quickly at supermarkets. Good industry to be in.

glatt · 02-24-2004, 04:02 PM

Actually, DDT is a benefactor of all humanity. It's just bad for the coastal birds like the Bald Eagle. DDT is a great way to stop hundreds of thousands of people dying from malaria each year. It doesn't harm humans (when used properly.) Don't misunderstand, I'm glad it was banned. It is pretty harmful to sea birds. But it was great for humans.

As for government spraying being a violation of our rights: that's just crazy talk. I remember as a kid in the late 1970s, we had a huge problem with dutch elm disease. Trucks would drive through the neighborhoods at night when people were inside and spray the shit out of all the trees in the neighborhood. That's not to mention all the spreying for skeeters that happend then and happens now. It's one of the few good gov't programs.

jinx · 02-24-2004, 04:28 PM

Does a number on important microorganisms too, like algae and plankton.

xoxoxoBruce · 02-24-2004, 06:58 PM

That looks like a real gas.

Slartibartfast · 02-24-2004, 07:50 PM

Microsoft should learn how to debug from these guys.

chrisinhouston · 02-24-2004, 09:47 PM

I've got a fogger like that one. We use it for photo shoots in outdoor areas that need a lot of fog. It uses some kind of 2 cycle engine that superheats the fogger juice and probels it out. It's REAL LOUD but it puts out a lot of fog. We don't use insecticide but some kind of non lethal fog juice from Hollywood.

Torrere · 02-24-2004, 11:30 PM

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Originally posted by Slartibartfast
Microsoft should learn how to debug from these guys.

But it would probably kill off a lot of features, too!

Oh, wait.

wolf · 02-25-2004, 12:37 AM

That's not a bug. It's an undocumented feature!

xoxoxoBruce · 02-25-2004, 05:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by chrisinhouston
We don't use insecticide but some kind of non lethal fog juice from Hollywood.

Great White believed that too.

Blizz · 02-25-2004, 11:28 AM

I'm in Utah. I have 44 ounces of caffienated love on my desk. I agree though...Brazil sounds pretty damn amazing. Has anyone been to "Fiesta" in San Antonio? I'm heading down there for business in April during Fiesta...just curious if I need to pack some bead necklaces...

I lived in NYC for a couple of years...too may cockroaches to begin describing. I was too poor to buy Insect Killer...resorted to the ol' hairspray and a lighter technique.

Buenos Roaches.

02-24-2004, 02:20 PM	#1
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	2/24/2004: Pesticide spraying in Java I was struck by this recent MSNBC pick. In our modern world, this would be a terrible violation of our rights. In Java, in poverty, getting rid of a disease means getting rid of the insects that spread it, and it looks like there's little choice in the matter. I guess sometimes the firm hand of an authority is needed to prevent a spreading pestilence, even if it seems on the face of it to be a violation. This woman's grandchildren may get cancer in 20 years, but she and her family won't be wiped out this year.

02-24-2004, 02:57 PM	#2
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	Violation of rights? The whole DC area is sprayed for mosquitos/caterpillars, etc most summers. Pesticides fill the air in any farming area. The victim of a termite infestation (or their insurance) must have an exterminator over, or risk lawsuits from neighbors. But the poor guy ought to have some sort of gas mask, and the family should be told to stay away for a while. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

02-24-2004, 03:17 PM	#4
jinx Come on, cat. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: general vicinity of Philadelphia area Posts: 7,013	Attached Images

02-24-2004, 04:28 PM	#8
jinx Come on, cat. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: general vicinity of Philadelphia area Posts: 7,013	Just shore birds?? Does a number on important microorganisms too, like algae and plankton.

02-24-2004, 06:58 PM	#9
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	That looks like a real gas. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

02-24-2004, 03:15 PM	#3
Leah Love my Heffalumps Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia (best place in the world) Posts: 346	Hell, that's what I'm like when I see one little cockroach in my place, I spray it to death (until it's all white a foamy) then squash it before it runs away, I'm satisfied then. I Hate any creepy crawly especially spiders.

02-24-2004, 03:54 PM	#6
Leah Love my Heffalumps Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia (best place in the world) Posts: 346	Sydney is inundated with these horrible little critters. I just keep spraying and doing my bit for the ozone. I only have little ones, (not many but enough to make me puke). Some people have the huge flying ones the size if a hand. It's the heat that brings them out. All insect sprays are selling quickly at supermarkets. Good industry to be in.

02-24-2004, 04:02 PM	#7
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	Actually, DDT is a benefactor of all humanity. It's just bad for the coastal birds like the Bald Eagle. DDT is a great way to stop hundreds of thousands of people dying from malaria each year. It doesn't harm humans (when used properly.) Don't misunderstand, I'm glad it was banned. It is pretty harmful to sea birds. But it was great for humans. As for government spraying being a violation of our rights: that's just crazy talk. I remember as a kid in the late 1970s, we had a huge problem with dutch elm disease. Trucks would drive through the neighborhoods at night when people were inside and spray the shit out of all the trees in the neighborhood. That's not to mention all the spreying for skeeters that happend then and happens now. It's one of the few good gov't programs.

02-24-2004, 07:50 PM	#10
Slartibartfast \|-0-\| <-0-> \|-0-\| Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: New Jersey Posts: 516	Microsoft should learn how to debug from these guys.

02-24-2004, 09:47 PM	#11
chrisinhouston Professor Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Houston TX Posts: 1,857	I've got a fogger like that one. We use it for photo shoots in outdoor areas that need a lot of fog. It uses some kind of 2 cycle engine that superheats the fogger juice and probels it out. It's REAL LOUD but it puts out a lot of fog. We don't use insecticide but some kind of non lethal fog juice from Hollywood.

02-25-2004, 12:37 AM	#13
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	That's not a bug. It's an undocumented feature! __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

02-25-2004, 11:28 AM	#15
Blizz Recruit or Something Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: SLC UT Posts: 4	I'm in Utah. I have 44 ounces of caffienated love on my desk. I agree though...Brazil sounds pretty damn amazing. Has anyone been to "Fiesta" in San Antonio? I'm heading down there for business in April during Fiesta...just curious if I need to pack some bead necklaces... I lived in NYC for a couple of years...too may cockroaches to begin describing. I was too poor to buy Insect Killer...resorted to the ol' hairspray and a lighter technique. Buenos Roaches.

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