1/22/2005: Bloody animal sacrifice

Undertoad · 01-22-2005, 10:34 AM

It's framed with some sort of metal fence decoration, but what we're seeing here is animal sacrifice in Pakistan, observing the first day of the Muslim festival of Eid al-Adha. The caption says the religious celebration marks Abraham's willingness to sacrifice his son in a show of obedience to God.

Foul!

Troubleshooter · 01-22-2005, 11:22 AM

Everytime I think I may be falling for the whole islam is a religion of peace, islam is this, islam is that I get handed big glass of wake the fuck up.

capnhowdy · 01-22-2005, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Troubleshooter

Everytime I think I may be falling for the whole islam is a religion of peace, islam is this, islam is that I get handed big glass of wake the fuck up.

I couldn't have said it as good; let alone better......Well put!

Beestie · 01-23-2005, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Troubleshooter

Everytime I think I may be falling for the whole islam is a religion of peace...

Whew, that was close!

Troubleshooter · 01-23-2005, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Beestie

Whew, that was close!

You're telling me bub. At least our zealots have limited their killing to children and abortion doctors.

404Error · 01-22-2005, 11:32 AM

Not to condone such a gruesome display, but if you read about Eid-Al-Adha, you find at least they actually eat the animals they're killing here.

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Because God spared Ishmael, substituting a sheep in his stead, Muslims commemorate this occasion by slaughtering an animal and distributing its meat among family, friends and the needy as a special act of charity for the occasion. Because of this, many poor Muslims are able to enjoy the unusual luxury of eating meat during the four days of the festival.

Still pretty disgusting though.

Relisnhoj · 01-22-2005, 12:45 PM

As long as they actually eat the meat I don't have a problem with it...I think. I agree that it is pretty gruesome looking, but I’ve seen the insides of a meal locker, it’s much, much worse than this. Anyone know how the animals are “sacrificed”? If they are chased around the square and beaten to death with clubs, then yeah, major problem, and I don't care if it's dinner or not. Besides that, you should be nice to your dinner, no one wants the ghost of a dead cow haunting your stomach while you digest it's body, I don't want to know what kind of cramps that would cause.

wolf · 01-22-2005, 01:49 PM

The ghosts of dead cows are often in your stomach, no matter how they are slaughtered.

Depending on your relationship with the dead cow's ghost, you get either farts or explosive diarrhea.

Relisnhoj · 01-22-2005, 03:23 PM

You know, it's conversations like this that convince ignorant people to become vegitarians, and condemn us meat eaters. I have a friend who is a rancher, thousands of acres of lands, even more cattle, and his daughter is a vegetarian. I don't get it.

garnet · 01-23-2005, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Relisnhoj

You know, it's conversations like this that convince ignorant people to become vegitarians, and condemn us meat eaters. I have a friend who is a rancher, thousands of acres of lands, even more cattle, and his daughter is a vegetarian. I don't get it.

I do. The daughter gets to see this stuff first hand and knows exactly what's going on. Logical choice on her part.

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Originally Posted by wah

if you think this says something about Islam, go up to Greeley, CO sometime and see how our Fast Food Nation does the whole slaughter thing. Mmmm, pools of cowshit...

Aint that the truth. Stuff that goes on in slaughterhouses in the good ol' "Christian" USA is way worse than what's in this picture. The only difference is you don't see it until it's neatly shrink-wrapped at the meat counter.

MAdMoNKEY · 01-24-2005, 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by garnet

The only difference is you don't see it until it's neatly shrink-wrapped at the meat counter.

I agree. At least the Muslims in the picture are exposed to where their meat is coming from--they understand what's involved, whether or not that affects their appreciation for their food or their eating habits. Us Americans on the other hand are shielded from all the gruesomeness--so much so that our first reaction is to cast stones at the "heathen" Muslims. I don't think we mean to be hypocritical, we're just not exposed to these kinds of facts of life.

Trilby · 01-22-2005, 03:21 PM

I have real big issues with the whole Abraham thing. I think Abraham was, to put it mildly, a freaking weird-o who did things that he'd be locked up for if he did them today (example: most people agree that a man who performs home-surgery or "modifications" on his own penis needs professional help) and his God seems particularly brutal. I've always hated the story of Abraham leading his innocent son (and, BTW, there is controversy about which son it was. Was it Sarah's son, Isaac, or Hagar's son, Ishmael? Big controversy over that!) to slaughter. Disgusting, even as an allegory. No wonder I reject Christianity in particular and the Abrahamic faiths in general.

capnhowdy · 01-22-2005, 06:07 PM

(example: most people agree that a man who performs home-surgery or "modifications" on his own penis needs professional help)

Modifications? I'm interested. heehee......
Right about needing professional help, too. One should NEVER attempt an operation like this alone................

xoxoxoBruce · 01-22-2005, 08:13 PM

Blood pudding.

capnhowdy · 01-22-2005, 10:49 PM

I was thinking: how do they intend to clean this mess up?
Oh well- no problem:

01-22-2005, 10:34 AM	#1
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	1/22/2005: Bloody animal sacrifice It's framed with some sort of metal fence decoration, but what we're seeing here is animal sacrifice in Pakistan, observing the first day of the Muslim festival of Eid al-Adha. The caption says the religious celebration marks Abraham's willingness to sacrifice his son in a show of obedience to God. Foul!

01-22-2005, 11:22 AM	#2
Troubleshooter The urban Jane Goodall Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 3,012	Everytime I think I may be falling for the whole islam is a religion of peace, islam is this, islam is that I get handed big glass of wake the fuck up. __________________ I have gained this from philosophy: that I do without being commanded what others do only from fear of the law. - Aristotle

01-22-2005, 12:45 PM	#7
Relisnhoj Ender of Vendors Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Wichita, KS Posts: 44	As long as they actually eat the meat I don't have a problem with it...I think. I agree that it is pretty gruesome looking, but I’ve seen the insides of a meal locker, it’s much, much worse than this. Anyone know how the animals are “sacrificed”? If they are chased around the square and beaten to death with clubs, then yeah, major problem, and I don't care if it's dinner or not. Besides that, you should be nice to your dinner, no one wants the ghost of a dead cow haunting your stomach while you digest it's body, I don't want to know what kind of cramps that would cause. __________________ "The problem with the world is stupidity. Not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself?" ~Frank Zappa

01-22-2005, 01:49 PM	#8
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	The ghosts of dead cows are often in your stomach, no matter how they are slaughtered. Depending on your relationship with the dead cow's ghost, you get either farts or explosive diarrhea. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

01-22-2005, 03:23 PM	#9
Relisnhoj Ender of Vendors Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Wichita, KS Posts: 44	You know, it's conversations like this that convince ignorant people to become vegitarians, and condemn us meat eaters. I have a friend who is a rancher, thousands of acres of lands, even more cattle, and his daughter is a vegetarian. I don't get it. __________________ "The problem with the world is stupidity. Not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself?" ~Frank Zappa

01-22-2005, 03:21 PM	#12
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	I have real big issues with the whole Abraham thing. I think Abraham was, to put it mildly, a freaking weird-o who did things that he'd be locked up for if he did them today (example: most people agree that a man who performs home-surgery or "modifications" on his own penis needs professional help) and his God seems particularly brutal. I've always hated the story of Abraham leading his innocent son (and, BTW, there is controversy about which son it was. Was it Sarah's son, Isaac, or Hagar's son, Ishmael? Big controversy over that!) to slaughter. Disgusting, even as an allegory. No wonder I reject Christianity in particular and the Abrahamic faiths in general. __________________ In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic. "Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her. —James Barrie Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum

01-22-2005, 06:07 PM	#13
capnhowdy Blatantly Homosapien Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 6,200	(example: most people agree that a man who performs home-surgery or "modifications" on his own penis needs professional help) Modifications? I'm interested. heehee...... Right about needing professional help, too. One should NEVER attempt an operation like this alone................ __________________ Please type slowly. I can't read very fast............... and no holy water, please.

01-22-2005, 08:13 PM	#14
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Blood pudding. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

01-22-2005, 10:49 PM	#15
capnhowdy Blatantly Homosapien Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 6,200	I was thinking: how do they intend to clean this mess up? Oh well- no problem: Attached Images __________________ Please type slowly. I can't read very fast............... and no holy water, please.

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