5/10/2005: Dinosaur tracks

Undertoad · 05-10-2005, 02:47 PM

A recent earth sci pic of the day, sent along by xoB, these are dinosaur tracks. The EPOD caption:

The photo above showing dinosaur footprints on a limestone slab was taken in the Fumanya Coal Mine, near the city of Berga (Catalogna) in northern Spain. This large surface layer of Maestrichtian (upper Cretaceous) lacustrine limestone was exposed during mining activity. Fumanya Mine is located in the southern Pyrenees Mountains. The numerous alignments of rounded traces which can be observed here are tracks of dinosaur footprints. Given the size and the general shape of their footprints, these animals were probably sauropods -- large plant eating dinosaurs. Note also the superb network of small- scale offset faults that crosscut the structural surface.

glatt · 05-10-2005, 03:15 PM

I've got no sense of the scale of this thing from the picture. Those look like a house cat's tracks to me.

jaguar · 05-10-2005, 03:16 PM

now remember everybody, these were put here by THE ALMIGHTY LORD to test our faith.

glatt - picture is taken from above, probably a shopper, the area shot is about 20m wide.

glatt · 05-10-2005, 03:43 PM

I'm an idiot. I didn't see the scale in the corner.

mrnoodle · 05-10-2005, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jaguar

now remember everybody, these were put here by THE ALMIGHTY LORD to test our faith.

Erm, I'm pretty sure they were put there by big lizards. Your newfound acceptance of the concept of God is heartening, though. Rough around the edges, but it's a start.

sandra77 · 05-10-2005, 05:18 PM

What a great picture!! Of course, dinosaurs are one of my favorite things.

I would love to see this in real life.

Sandra

xoxoxoBruce · 05-10-2005, 09:05 PM

Spain awaits, Madam.

Troubleshooter · 05-11-2005, 08:13 AM

All we need now is for one of the dragon prints to have a human footprint in it and we'll be done.

wolf · 05-11-2005, 10:34 AM

There was a "creation archeologist" who was caught chiseling toe prints into some dinosaur tracks to make them look more like human footprints back in the 80s.

Troubleshooter · 05-11-2005, 11:26 AM

Any way to point me in a direction to cite that? I'd heard about the footprint in a footprint thing, but I never really looked into it.

lookout123 · 05-11-2005, 11:37 AM

i'm sure it is true, there are idiots abundant in every religion and philosophy. and that guy deserved to catch a chisel between the eyes.

but seriously, don't you get tired of dogging people who hold faith in a higher power than themselves? it goes in spurts around here. nothing for awhile, and then several threads will careen off into christian bashing. quite often people who call themselves christians deserve to be slapped around for being stupid - but i don't see how that justifies ridicule of those that choose to follow Christ's teachings.

i'm not very good analogies but here goes: TW is an engineer who has liberal leanings. I disagree with TW on damn near everything. Should I then feel justified in ridiculing all liberal, or all engineers as stupid arrogant jackasses who...? or can i just realize that TW is one person who makes his own choices and it would be unfair to judge all by the actions of one?

edit: reread my post and thought i should clarify. TW - i do not think you are stupid. arrogant, sure. jackass, maybe. it was just an awkward analogy.

Happy Monkey · 05-11-2005, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by lookout123

but seriously, don't you get tired of dogging people who hold faith in a higher power than themselves? it goes in spurts around here. nothing for awhile, and then several threads will careen off into christian bashing. quite often people who call themselves christians deserve to be slapped around for being stupid - but i don't see how that justifies ridicule of those that choose to follow Christ's teachings.

"People who try to put young-Earth creationism into public schools" doesn't have much to do with "people who hold faith in a higher power than themselves". Personally, I only have an issue with people who try to enforce something they call christianity on everyone else. If gays were running around trying to force everyone to marry someone of the same sex, I'd have the same problem with them. Or if the wiccans were trying to put Goddess stories into history books. Or if Jews were trying to ban non-kosher foods.

mlandman · 05-11-2005, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

"People who try to put young-Earth creationism into public schools" doesn't have much to do with "people who hold faith in a higher power than themselves". Personally, I only have an issue with people who try to enforce something they call christianity on everyone else. If gays were running around trying to force everyone to marry someone of the same sex, I'd have the same problem with them. Or if the wiccans were trying to put Goddess stories into history books. Or if Jews were trying to ban non-kosher foods.

This one time, at wiccan camp...

OnyxCougar · 05-11-2005, 12:59 PM

As a literal creationist, I don't think Creationist views should be in public school at all.

Nor should Evolution as origin of man.

At the school-age level, no origin of man need be discussed at all.

It is not up to our schools to indoctrinate our children in ANY religion, humanist or otherwise.

And the tracks you refer to that were faked are the paluxy tracks.

mlandman · 05-11-2005, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by OnyxCougar

It is not up to our schools to indoctrinate our children in ANY religion, humanist or otherwise.

Evolution isn't religion, humanist or otherwise. Nor is the presence of dinosaurs.

-mike

05-10-2005, 02:47 PM	#1
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	5/10/2005: Dinosaur tracks A recent earth sci pic of the day, sent along by xoB, these are dinosaur tracks. The EPOD caption: The photo above showing dinosaur footprints on a limestone slab was taken in the Fumanya Coal Mine, near the city of Berga (Catalogna) in northern Spain. This large surface layer of Maestrichtian (upper Cretaceous) lacustrine limestone was exposed during mining activity. Fumanya Mine is located in the southern Pyrenees Mountains. The numerous alignments of rounded traces which can be observed here are tracks of dinosaur footprints. Given the size and the general shape of their footprints, these animals were probably sauropods -- large plant eating dinosaurs. Note also the superb network of small- scale offset faults that crosscut the structural surface.

05-10-2005, 03:16 PM	#3
jaguar whig Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 5,075	now remember everybody, these were put here by THE ALMIGHTY LORD to test our faith. glatt - picture is taken from above, probably a shopper, the area shot is about 20m wide. __________________ Good friends, good books and a sleepy conscience: this is the ideal life. - Twain

05-10-2005, 09:05 PM	#7
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Spain awaits, Madam. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

05-11-2005, 08:13 AM	#8
Troubleshooter The urban Jane Goodall Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 3,012	All we need now is for one of the dragon prints to have a human footprint in it and we'll be done. __________________ I have gained this from philosophy: that I do without being commanded what others do only from fear of the law. - Aristotle

05-11-2005, 10:34 AM	#9
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	There was a "creation archeologist" who was caught chiseling toe prints into some dinosaur tracks to make them look more like human footprints back in the 80s. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

05-10-2005, 03:15 PM	#2
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	I've got no sense of the scale of this thing from the picture. Those look like a house cat's tracks to me.

05-10-2005, 03:43 PM	#4
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	I'm an idiot. I didn't see the scale in the corner.

05-10-2005, 05:18 PM	#6
sandra77 Antagonistic Antagonist Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 22	What a great picture!! Of course, dinosaurs are one of my favorite things. I would love to see this in real life. Sandra

05-11-2005, 11:26 AM	#10
Troubleshooter The urban Jane Goodall Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 3,012	Any way to point me in a direction to cite that? I'd heard about the footprint in a footprint thing, but I never really looked into it. __________________ I have gained this from philosophy: that I do without being commanded what others do only from fear of the law. - Aristotle

05-11-2005, 11:37 AM	#11
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	i'm sure it is true, there are idiots abundant in every religion and philosophy. and that guy deserved to catch a chisel between the eyes. but seriously, don't you get tired of dogging people who hold faith in a higher power than themselves? it goes in spurts around here. nothing for awhile, and then several threads will careen off into christian bashing. quite often people who call themselves christians deserve to be slapped around for being stupid - but i don't see how that justifies ridicule of those that choose to follow Christ's teachings. i'm not very good analogies but here goes: TW is an engineer who has liberal leanings. I disagree with TW on damn near everything. Should I then feel justified in ridiculing all liberal, or all engineers as stupid arrogant jackasses who...? or can i just realize that TW is one person who makes his own choices and it would be unfair to judge all by the actions of one? edit: reread my post and thought i should clarify. TW - i do not think you are stupid. arrogant, sure. jackass, maybe. it was just an awkward analogy. __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin Last edited by lookout123; 05-11-2005 at 11:41 AM.

05-11-2005, 12:59 PM	#14
OnyxCougar Junior Master Dwellar Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Kingdom of Atlantia Posts: 2,979	As a literal creationist, I don't think Creationist views should be in public school at all. Nor should Evolution as origin of man. At the school-age level, no origin of man need be discussed at all. It is not up to our schools to indoctrinate our children in ANY religion, humanist or otherwise. And the tracks you refer to that were faked are the paluxy tracks. __________________ Impotentes defendere libertatem non possunt. "Repetition does not transform a lie into a truth." ~Franklin D. Roosevelt

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