Anyone want a collection of 78s?

kerosene · 05-18-2005, 06:03 PM

I bought a bunch of records at a farm sale a week ago and now, I am feeling a little overwhelmed about the whole thing. I have almost 100 or so 78s, now that I have no idea what to do with. Would anyone be interested in them? I don't really have the time or the inclination to go through each one and figure out what they are worth, but I think some of them may be worth something...Once is Elvis Presley "Love me Tender" in near mint condition, there are a few other Elvis ones, there are a lot of Decca and some other titles, like RCA Victor, Imperial, Dot, Columbia. All of these records seem to be from the late 40s to mid 50s. Other artists include Pat Boone, Les Paul, The Platters, Doris Day, and a bunch of others that I don't know anything about. Please let me know if anyone is interested. I will probably list them on Ebay, if nobody wants them.

richlevy · 05-18-2005, 09:24 PM

Not that this person has any hits, but here is someone selling a Love Me Tender 78 in really crappy condition for $25.

I would take the time to go through the collection.

Griff · 05-18-2005, 09:26 PM

Yep, definitely a job for ebay.

wolf · 05-18-2005, 09:28 PM

I was going to suggest the same thing, without doing the research.

If nothing else, see if you can find a record dealer near you.

Check these guys out too.

kerosene · 05-18-2005, 10:51 PM

Thanks for the tips...

I think I am just going to sell the lot of them on Ebay and see what happens. I know some of them could be worth something, but I don't (really don't) have the time to worry about each one. If a record enthusiast manages to catch my lot, he/she will know if it is a good deal.

Griff · 05-19-2005, 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by case

I know some of them could be worth something, but I don't (really don't) have the time to worry about each one.

Maybe you could list them here and some cellarite could tell you which ones are worth something. You could probably use the cash for your studio project.

dar512 · 05-19-2005, 10:59 AM

I've got a friend who collects Victrola type players and 78s. I suspect he'd appreciate them.

kerosene · 05-19-2005, 11:24 AM

Dar, would you find out for me if he would be interested in these? Either that or you can pm me his email address and I will find out?

Griff, I have them all listed out. I just don't know if anyone on the cellar would know what each one is worth...if anyone does, speak up!

Wolf, I will try giving him a call. He might not be interested in 78s, but it's definitely worth a try!

Thanks guys, for all your help!

wolf · 05-18-2005, 11:43 PM

You might want to contact this guy ... He seems to have a lot of vinyl.

kerosene · 05-18-2005, 11:57 PM

Okay, sent the guy an email, but his site tells me he specializes in 45s, so I dunno if he will care much about 78s. Anyway, I am gonna see what he says first.

Thanks for the advice, Wolf.

Case

wolf · 05-19-2005, 12:01 AM

I've been trying to find the number for Val Shively, who is THE guy for vinyl, and while I can find a lot of stories about him, I'm not finding his contact info online.

wolf · 05-19-2005, 12:03 AM

Val Shively's R&B Records
49 Garrett Road
Upper Darby
Pennsylvania
United States
610-352-2320

Proprietor: Val Shively Founded: 1972 4 million 45 RPM's and thousands of LP's for sale.

warch · 05-19-2005, 01:41 PM

I might be interested in some. Where's the artist/title listing?

kerosene · 05-19-2005, 02:43 PM

That could make for a long list...give me a little bit and I will get it all typed up.

kerosene · 05-19-2005, 05:16 PM

Okay, here is the list. I tried to assess the condition of each one. The excellent or near mint ones have no scratches (even the tiny ones) and The very good and good ones will have a few scratches to many. Those records will still be playable. The Fair records are the ones that are probably not very playable, but are not broken.

I hope this helps a little bit

"Little" Jimmy Dickens What about You/It May be Silly Columbia Fair
Archie Bleyer and James Burke S'il Vous Plait/Hernandos Hideaway Cadence Good
Bill Haley The Paperboy/See you Later, Alligator Decca Very Good
Billy Vaughn A Theme from "The Three Penny Opera Moritat"/Little Boy Blue Dot Very Good
Bing Crosby Jim, Johnny and Jonas/Farewell Decca Very Good
Bing Crosby and Grace Kelly Well Did you Evah?/True Love Capitol Excellent (orig paper sleeve)
Bob Sandy Alabama Jubilee/Baby, we're really in love Tops Very Good (Orig paper sleeve
Bob Sandy Somebody's Been Beatin' My Time/Crazy Heart Tops Good
Bob Willis and his Texas Playboys Silver Bells/Spanish Two Step Columbia Good
Carl Smith If Teardrops were Pennies/Mr. Moon Columbia Good
Carl Smith There's Nothing as Sweet as My Baby/Let's Live a Little Columbia Very Good (Orig paper sleeve
Dean Martin Hey, Brother Pour the Wine/I'd Cry Like a Baby
Dell Gillman Peace in the Valley/Mom and Dad's Waltz Tops Good
Doris Day Moonlight Bay/Tell me Columbia Good
Eddie Arnold and His Guitar Just Call me Lonesome/That Do Make it Nice RCA Victor Very Good
Eddie Fisher Dungaree Doll/Everybody's got a home, but me RCA Victor Very Good
Eddie Howard and his Orchestra Missouri Waltz/My Best to you Majestic Good
Eddie Howard and his Orchestra Say You're Mine Again/Broken Wings Mercury Very Good
Eddy Arnold The Kentuckian Song/The Cattle Call RCA Victor Very Good
Elvis Presley Just Because/Blue Moon RCA Victor Excellent
Elvis Presley Mystery Train/I forgot to Remember to Forget RCA Victor Very Good
Elvis Presley Love me Tender/Anyway You Want me RCA Victor Excellent/Near Mint
Ernest Tubb Have You Seen/It's a Lonely World Decca Good (has original paper sleeve)
Four Knights, The Couldn't Stay away from You/Oh Baby Mine Capitol Very Good (Orig paper sleeve
Frank Sinatra Silent Night, Holy Night/Adeste Fideles Columbia Very Good
Frankie Lymon Why do Fools Fall in Love/Please be Mine Gee Very Good
Gene Autry Someday You'll Want me to Want you/Have I told you Lately that I Love you Columbia Good
George Beverly Shea I wonder/He RCA Victor Very Good (Orig paper sleeve
Georgia Gibbs RockRight/The Greatest Thing Mercury Good
Goldie Hill I Let the Stars Get in my Eyes/Waiting for a Letter Decca Fair
Guy Lombardo Pass the Plate of Happiness Around/Freddy Decca Very Good (Orig paper sleeve
Guy Mitchell Ninety Nine Years/Perfume, Candy and Flowers Columbia Excellent (orig paper sleeve)
Hank Snow Unwanted Sign Upon your Heart/Your Locket is my Broken Heart RCA Victor Very Good
Hank Thompson Breakin' in another Heart/Wildwood Flower Capitol Very Good
Hank Thompson Simple Simon/Most of All Capitol Very Good
Helen O'Connell and Skeets McDonald Hi DiddleDee/Worried Mind Capitol Very Good (Orig paper sleeve
Jack Holcomb The Stranger of Galilee/I am Amazed Sacred Excellent (orig paper sleeve)
Jane Stanton You Belong to Me/Jambalaya Tops Excellent (orig paper sleeve)
Jenks (Tex) Carman Indian Polka/Dixie Cannon Ball Capitol Good
Jim Lowe That Little Man in Chinatown/The Green Door Dot Excellent (orig paper sleeve)
Jim Lowe Gambler's Guitar/The Martins and the Coys Mercury Fair
Jimmy Wakely Goodbye, Little Girl/Love Song of the Waterfall Capitol Good
Joan Weber Let me Go Lover/Marionette Columbia Excellent (orig paper sleeve)
Johnnie and Jack Cheated out of Love/Love Trap RCA Victor Good (has original paper sleeve)
Johnnie Ray Cry/Little White Cloud that Cried Okeh Very Good
Johnny Horton Honky-Tonk Man/I'm Ready if You're Willing Columbia Excellent (orig paper sleeve)
Kay Starr The Rock and Roll Waltz/I've Changed my Mind a Thousand Times RCA Victor Very Good
Kit Carson Band of Gold/Cast Your Bread Upon the Waters Capitol Very Good/Excellent (orig paper sleeve)
Les Baxter The Poor People of Paris/Theme from "Helen of Troy" Capitol Very Good (Orig paper sleeve
Les Paul with Mary Ford Mandolino/Whither Thou Goest Capitol Good
Les Paul with Mary Ford How High the Moon/Walkin' and Whistlin' blues Capitol Good
Les Paul with Mary Ford Goodbye, My Love/hummingbird Capitol Good
Marty Robbins A Halfway Chance with you/A Castle in the Sky Columbia Fair
Mills Brothers In the Sweet By and By/The old Rugged Cross Decca Very Good (Orig paper sleeve
Mitch Miller Yellow Rose of Texas/Blackberry Winter Columbia Good
Mitchell Torok Hootchy Kootchy Henry/Gigolo Abbott Good
Pat Boone Tennessee Saturday Night/Aint that a Shame Dot Excellent (orig paper sleeve)
Patti Page The Voice Inside/Go on With the Wedding Mercury Good
Perez (Prez) Prado and his Orchestra Rhythm Sticks/Cherry Pink and Apple Blossom White RCA Victor Good
Perry Como Hot Diggity/Juke Box Baby RCA Victor Excellent (orig paper sleeve)
Perry Como and Mixed Chorus White Christmas/Silent Night RCA Victor Very Good (Orig paper sleeve
Pete Cassell Oh, How I miss you/The Letter Edged in Black Varsity Good
Ray Price I'll Be there/Release me Columbia Fair
Roy Acuff and his Smokey Mountain Boys The Precious Jewel/Pins and Needles Columbia Very Good
Skeets McDonald Someday/You Gotta Be my Baby Capitol Near Mint (Orig Paper Sleeve)
Skeets McDonald Looking at the Moon and Wishing on a Star/I Need your Love Capitol Good
Slim Willet Live While you're Young/The Red Rose 4Star Very Good
Slim Witman Secret Love/Why Imperial Good
Stan Kenton Tenderly/The Creep Capitol Good (has original paper sleeve)
Swing and Sway with Sammy Kaye Walkin' to Missouri/One for the Wonder Columbia Good
The Carlisles It's Bedtime, Bill/Rusty Old Halo Mercury Good
The Chordettes Lay Down Your Arms/Teen Age Goodnight Cadence Excellent
The Chordettes Mr. Sandman/I don't wanna See you Cryin' Cadence Good
The Fontane Sisters Bless Your Heart/Hearts of Stone Dot Good
The Fontane Sisters Rollin' Stone/Playmates Dot Very Good (Orig paper sleeve
The Four Lads No, Not Much/I'll Never Know Columbia Good (has original paper sleeve)
The Harmoneers Quartet Lord, Build me a Cabin in Glory/Just a Little Talk with Jesus RCA Victor Excellent (orig paper sleeve)
The Lee Gordon Singers Angel Bells/You Never Have to Stand Alone Marquee Very Good
The Platters I'm Just a Dancing Partner/The Great Pretender Mercury Excellent
The Rhythm Rangers It Wasn't God Who Made Honky-Tonk Angels/Indian Love Call Tops Good/Fair
The Sundowners Starlight Waltz Windsor Excellent
Tommy Collins High on a Hilltop/You Better not do That Capitol Very Good
Webb Pierce Sparkling Brown Eyes/Even Tho Decca Good
Webb Pierce Don't Throw Your Life Away/It's been So Long Decca Good
Webb Pierce If you were me/Love, Love, Love Decca Very Good

05-18-2005, 06:03 PM	#1
kerosene Touring the facilities Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The plains of Colorado Posts: 3,476	Anyone want a collection of 78s? I bought a bunch of records at a farm sale a week ago and now, I am feeling a little overwhelmed about the whole thing. I have almost 100 or so 78s, now that I have no idea what to do with. Would anyone be interested in them? I don't really have the time or the inclination to go through each one and figure out what they are worth, but I think some of them may be worth something...Once is Elvis Presley "Love me Tender" in near mint condition, there are a few other Elvis ones, there are a lot of Decca and some other titles, like RCA Victor, Imperial, Dot, Columbia. All of these records seem to be from the late 40s to mid 50s. Other artists include Pat Boone, Les Paul, The Platters, Doris Day, and a bunch of others that I don't know anything about. Please let me know if anyone is interested. I will probably list them on Ebay, if nobody wants them.

05-18-2005, 09:24 PM	#2
richlevy King Of Wishful Thinking Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Philadelphia Suburbs Posts: 6,669	Not that this person has any hits, but here is someone selling a Love Me Tender 78 in really crappy condition for $25. I would take the time to go through the collection. __________________ Exercise your rights and remember your obligations - VOTE! I have always believed that hope is that stubborn thing inside us that insists, despite all the evidence to the contrary, that something better awaits us so long as we have the courage to keep reaching, to keep working, to keep fighting. -- Barack Hussein Obama

05-18-2005, 09:26 PM	#3
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	Yep, definitely a job for ebay. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

05-18-2005, 09:28 PM	#4
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	I was going to suggest the same thing, without doing the research. If nothing else, see if you can find a record dealer near you. Check these guys out too. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

05-19-2005, 10:59 AM	#7
dar512 dar512 is now Pete Zicato Join Date: May 2003 Location: Chicago suburb Posts: 4,968	I've got a friend who collects Victrola type players and 78s. I suspect he'd appreciate them. __________________ "Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain." -- Friedrich Schiller

05-18-2005, 10:51 PM	#5
kerosene Touring the facilities Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The plains of Colorado Posts: 3,476	Thanks for the tips... I think I am just going to sell the lot of them on Ebay and see what happens. I know some of them could be worth something, but I don't (really don't) have the time to worry about each one. If a record enthusiast manages to catch my lot, he/she will know if it is a good deal.

05-19-2005, 11:24 AM	#8
kerosene Touring the facilities Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The plains of Colorado Posts: 3,476	Dar, would you find out for me if he would be interested in these? Either that or you can pm me his email address and I will find out? Griff, I have them all listed out. I just don't know if anyone on the cellar would know what each one is worth...if anyone does, speak up! Wolf, I will try giving him a call. He might not be interested in 78s, but it's definitely worth a try! Thanks guys, for all your help!

05-18-2005, 11:43 PM	#9
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	You might want to contact this guy ... He seems to have a lot of vinyl. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

05-18-2005, 11:57 PM	#10
kerosene Touring the facilities Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The plains of Colorado Posts: 3,476	Okay, sent the guy an email, but his site tells me he specializes in 45s, so I dunno if he will care much about 78s. Anyway, I am gonna see what he says first. Thanks for the advice, Wolf. Case

05-19-2005, 12:01 AM	#11
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	I've been trying to find the number for Val Shively, who is THE guy for vinyl, and while I can find a lot of stories about him, I'm not finding his contact info online. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

05-19-2005, 12:03 AM	#12
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	Val Shively's R&B Records 49 Garrett Road Upper Darby Pennsylvania United States 610-352-2320 Proprietor: Val Shively Founded: 1972 4 million 45 RPM's and thousands of LP's for sale. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

05-19-2005, 01:41 PM	#13
warch lurkin old school Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,796	I might be interested in some. Where's the artist/title listing?

05-19-2005, 02:43 PM	#14
kerosene Touring the facilities Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The plains of Colorado Posts: 3,476	That could make for a long list...give me a little bit and I will get it all typed up.

05-19-2005, 05:16 PM	#15
kerosene Touring the facilities Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The plains of Colorado Posts: 3,476	Okay, here is the list. I tried to assess the condition of each one. The excellent or near mint ones have no scratches (even the tiny ones) and The very good and good ones will have a few scratches to many. Those records will still be playable. The Fair records are the ones that are probably not very playable, but are not broken. I hope this helps a little bit "Little" Jimmy Dickens What about You/It May be Silly Columbia Fair Archie Bleyer and James Burke S'il Vous Plait/Hernandos Hideaway Cadence Good Bill Haley The Paperboy/See you Later, Alligator Decca Very Good Billy Vaughn A Theme from "The Three Penny Opera Moritat"/Little Boy Blue Dot Very Good Bing Crosby Jim, Johnny and Jonas/Farewell Decca Very Good Bing Crosby and Grace Kelly Well Did you Evah?/True Love Capitol Excellent (orig paper sleeve) Bob Sandy Alabama Jubilee/Baby, we're really in love Tops Very Good (Orig paper sleeve Bob Sandy Somebody's Been Beatin' My Time/Crazy Heart Tops Good Bob Willis and his Texas Playboys Silver Bells/Spanish Two Step Columbia Good Carl Smith If Teardrops were Pennies/Mr. Moon Columbia Good Carl Smith There's Nothing as Sweet as My Baby/Let's Live a Little Columbia Very Good (Orig paper sleeve Dean Martin Hey, Brother Pour the Wine/I'd Cry Like a Baby Dell Gillman Peace in the Valley/Mom and Dad's Waltz Tops Good Doris Day Moonlight Bay/Tell me Columbia Good Eddie Arnold and His Guitar Just Call me Lonesome/That Do Make it Nice RCA Victor Very Good Eddie Fisher Dungaree Doll/Everybody's got a home, but me RCA Victor Very Good Eddie Howard and his Orchestra Missouri Waltz/My Best to you Majestic Good Eddie Howard and his Orchestra Say You're Mine Again/Broken Wings Mercury Very Good Eddy Arnold The Kentuckian Song/The Cattle Call RCA Victor Very Good Elvis Presley Just Because/Blue Moon RCA Victor Excellent Elvis Presley Mystery Train/I forgot to Remember to Forget RCA Victor Very Good Elvis Presley Love me Tender/Anyway You Want me RCA Victor Excellent/Near Mint Ernest Tubb Have You Seen/It's a Lonely World Decca Good (has original paper sleeve) Four Knights, The Couldn't Stay away from You/Oh Baby Mine Capitol Very Good (Orig paper sleeve Frank Sinatra Silent Night, Holy Night/Adeste Fideles Columbia Very Good Frankie Lymon Why do Fools Fall in Love/Please be Mine Gee Very Good Gene Autry Someday You'll Want me to Want you/Have I told you Lately that I Love you Columbia Good George Beverly Shea I wonder/He RCA Victor Very Good (Orig paper sleeve Georgia Gibbs RockRight/The Greatest Thing Mercury Good Goldie Hill I Let the Stars Get in my Eyes/Waiting for a Letter Decca Fair Guy Lombardo Pass the Plate of Happiness Around/Freddy Decca Very Good (Orig paper sleeve Guy Mitchell Ninety Nine Years/Perfume, Candy and Flowers Columbia Excellent (orig paper sleeve) Hank Snow Unwanted Sign Upon your Heart/Your Locket is my Broken Heart RCA Victor Very Good Hank Thompson Breakin' in another Heart/Wildwood Flower Capitol Very Good Hank Thompson Simple Simon/Most of All Capitol Very Good Helen O'Connell and Skeets McDonald Hi DiddleDee/Worried Mind Capitol Very Good (Orig paper sleeve Jack Holcomb The Stranger of Galilee/I am Amazed Sacred Excellent (orig paper sleeve) Jane Stanton You Belong to Me/Jambalaya Tops Excellent (orig paper sleeve) Jenks (Tex) Carman Indian Polka/Dixie Cannon Ball Capitol Good Jim Lowe That Little Man in Chinatown/The Green Door Dot Excellent (orig paper sleeve) Jim Lowe Gambler's Guitar/The Martins and the Coys Mercury Fair Jimmy Wakely Goodbye, Little Girl/Love Song of the Waterfall Capitol Good Joan Weber Let me Go Lover/Marionette Columbia Excellent (orig paper sleeve) Johnnie and Jack Cheated out of Love/Love Trap RCA Victor Good (has original paper sleeve) Johnnie Ray Cry/Little White Cloud that Cried Okeh Very Good Johnny Horton Honky-Tonk Man/I'm Ready if You're Willing Columbia Excellent (orig paper sleeve) Kay Starr The Rock and Roll Waltz/I've Changed my Mind a Thousand Times RCA Victor Very Good Kit Carson Band of Gold/Cast Your Bread Upon the Waters Capitol Very Good/Excellent (orig paper sleeve) Les Baxter The Poor People of Paris/Theme from "Helen of Troy" Capitol Very Good (Orig paper sleeve Les Paul with Mary Ford Mandolino/Whither Thou Goest Capitol Good Les Paul with Mary Ford How High the Moon/Walkin' and Whistlin' blues Capitol Good Les Paul with Mary Ford Goodbye, My Love/hummingbird Capitol Good Marty Robbins A Halfway Chance with you/A Castle in the Sky Columbia Fair Mills Brothers In the Sweet By and By/The old Rugged Cross Decca Very Good (Orig paper sleeve Mitch Miller Yellow Rose of Texas/Blackberry Winter Columbia Good Mitchell Torok Hootchy Kootchy Henry/Gigolo Abbott Good Pat Boone Tennessee Saturday Night/Aint that a Shame Dot Excellent (orig paper sleeve) Patti Page The Voice Inside/Go on With the Wedding Mercury Good Perez (Prez) Prado and his Orchestra Rhythm Sticks/Cherry Pink and Apple Blossom White RCA Victor Good Perry Como Hot Diggity/Juke Box Baby RCA Victor Excellent (orig paper sleeve) Perry Como and Mixed Chorus White Christmas/Silent Night RCA Victor Very Good (Orig paper sleeve Pete Cassell Oh, How I miss you/The Letter Edged in Black Varsity Good Ray Price I'll Be there/Release me Columbia Fair Roy Acuff and his Smokey Mountain Boys The Precious Jewel/Pins and Needles Columbia Very Good Skeets McDonald Someday/You Gotta Be my Baby Capitol Near Mint (Orig Paper Sleeve) Skeets McDonald Looking at the Moon and Wishing on a Star/I Need your Love Capitol Good Slim Willet Live While you're Young/The Red Rose 4Star Very Good Slim Witman Secret Love/Why Imperial Good Stan Kenton Tenderly/The Creep Capitol Good (has original paper sleeve) Swing and Sway with Sammy Kaye Walkin' to Missouri/One for the Wonder Columbia Good The Carlisles It's Bedtime, Bill/Rusty Old Halo Mercury Good The Chordettes Lay Down Your Arms/Teen Age Goodnight Cadence Excellent The Chordettes Mr. Sandman/I don't wanna See you Cryin' Cadence Good The Fontane Sisters Bless Your Heart/Hearts of Stone Dot Good The Fontane Sisters Rollin' Stone/Playmates Dot Very Good (Orig paper sleeve The Four Lads No, Not Much/I'll Never Know Columbia Good (has original paper sleeve) The Harmoneers Quartet Lord, Build me a Cabin in Glory/Just a Little Talk with Jesus RCA Victor Excellent (orig paper sleeve) The Lee Gordon Singers Angel Bells/You Never Have to Stand Alone Marquee Very Good The Platters I'm Just a Dancing Partner/The Great Pretender Mercury Excellent The Rhythm Rangers It Wasn't God Who Made Honky-Tonk Angels/Indian Love Call Tops Good/Fair The Sundowners Starlight Waltz Windsor Excellent Tommy Collins High on a Hilltop/You Better not do That Capitol Very Good Webb Pierce Sparkling Brown Eyes/Even Tho Decca Good Webb Pierce Don't Throw Your Life Away/It's been So Long Decca Good Webb Pierce If you were me/Love, Love, Love Decca Very Good

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