Why? - Page 2

russotto · 02-23-2005, 09:39 AM

I apparently exist to pick on vegans and furriners.

Brown Thrasher · 02-24-2005, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Dunlavy

Well said, Brown. My life.... although seemingly meaningless is to help those around me. Those who deserve such help that is. A soulwatcher if you will. I give love and take pain, and all in all, I am respected for it. It is what I do, and what I will be doing till this body fails to exist any longer.

Dun, I thought you were a young man. However, your statement seems wise for a youngster. In my opinion, you will not find love without pain. As long as you continue to help others, you will be repected. The only question I have; is what you mean when you say "those that deservre such help." I hope you meant those who really need help, for who are we to say who deserves help.
Anyway a profound statement, that not many can honestly say is a driving force in their life..........

lookout123 · 02-24-2005, 11:29 PM

well, love is pain and pain is love. who can cause you pain if you do not hold some degree of love for them? really. if you care nothing about a persons regard for you how can their thoughts, words, actions cause you pain? and if you don't hold much stock in their thoughts, words, actions - do you hold love for them?

for me? i consider my reason for existence to be my son. in mymind i am here to raise him to be a better man than i can ever hope to be. to paraphrase a certain Mr Pacino - i always new the right path, but i have invariably chosen the wrong one. i hope to raise my son to be a better man. a better human.

beyond that i hope to brighten someone's day. may that be my assistant who has no living family, my son who has no other father, my parents who have no other son, the man on the corner who i bought lunch, my client who lost his wife to a sudden illness... someone. everyday.

i don't believe in ka, karma, or luck. i do believe that there is a certain point where all credibility is shot. i believe there comes a point where "i" can no longer be the one to make a difference. i believe my actions have a consequence. i believe there comes a point where i can no longer be used in a truly meaningful way - so i must hope to impact the lives of those that have not passed that mile marker, whatever it may be.

that is what i believe.

Kitsune · 02-25-2005, 10:10 AM

Here's why. (good read)

finding_nirvana · 03-08-2005, 05:11 PM

I like this thread, such an interrogatory thread for such suicidal people, I agree with some of the others I've read, we are here just for the sake of breeding and keeping the species going, the delicate balance depends on just that, balance, and while we're here, we can make things good before we go. I hope to see more posts coming from this thread, good ones

"You are an odd little boy, but I suppose... as our mothers have always told us, atleast my mother told me 'always try new things'."

xoxoxoBruce · 03-08-2005, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Brown Thrasher

The only question I have; is what you mean when you say "those that deservre such help." I hope you meant those who really need help, for who are we to say who deserves help.

Anyone who's in the position to give help, thats who. Everyone has to judge whether their assistance is going to do any good, since nobody has unlimited resources.
You have to decide the risk, freeing a trapped animal might lead to injury or death. Picking up a pedestrian could do the same. (Personally I won't pick up women anymore.)
Investing time or money is less risky, but there again, most people would hope it wasn't wasted. You might not see a positive result but you(I) definitely don't want to see a negative.

SteveDallas · 03-09-2005, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by finding_nirvana

I like this thread, such an interrogatory thread for such suicidal people

Who's suicidal?

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Originally Posted by finding_nirvana

we are here just for the sake of breeding and keeping the species going

Why? What's going to happen to me if I don't?

finding_nirvana · 03-09-2005, 11:02 AM

I'm not sure, I guess, if we stop breeding, the race will slowly diminish.

mrnoodle · 03-09-2005, 12:04 PM

"Why?" isn't as deep a concept as we try to make it. In the end, we're only looking for shelter, food, and sex to answer our instinctive need to propogate the species. We have evolved an advanced problem-solving ability so that our basic biological needs are met almost without any effort. The resulting spare time isn't something our brains are used to, and there's lots of wasted traffic along our neural pathways. This is directionless, random electrical activity that we have come to interpret as "deep thought" but is actually the product of an organ that is still keyed for high activity and hasn't adapted to the lack of need for it. At the pinnacle of human evolution, having answered all our survival needs with permanent shelters and food sources, and the ability to self-reproduce, our brains will be the size of peanuts and we will no longer have limbs, since there's no need to go anywhere, anyway. We will be utterly self-contained, no longer producing digestive waste, impacting our environment only insofar as we require 3 square feet of space for our bodies to wobble on. As we die, the single offspring we each produce will occupy the space we used to occupy. If only Darwin could have lived long enough to see the realization of his dream....

what?

Troubleshooter · 03-09-2005, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by mrnoodle

what?

Damn... Just damn...

And I thought I had a low opinion.

mrnoodle · 03-09-2005, 12:10 PM

: lol. what? isn't this the ideal scenario for people who think there is no soul, no god, only animal instinct and evolutionary advancement?

SteveDallas · 03-09-2005, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by finding_nirvana

I'm not sure, I guess, if we stop breeding, the race will slowly diminish.

Yeah, but why do I as an individual care about that? If it's my only justification for getting out of bed and (attempting/pretending) to do something useful every morning, it seems pretty slim.

Troubleshooter · 03-09-2005, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by mrnoodle

...isn't this the ideal scenario for people who think there is no soul, no god, only animal instinct and evolutionary advancement?

Um, no.

Trilby · 03-09-2005, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveDallas

Yeah, but why do I as an individual care about that? If it's my only justification for getting out of bed and (attempting/pretending) to do something useful every morning, it seems pretty slim.

Maybe we get out of bed every morning and attempt to "do something" due to ego? Do depressed people suffer from depressed ego's? Is that why I--I mean they! they! stay in bed all damn day??? Anyone?

Brown Thrasher · 03-09-2005, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Anyone who's in the position to give help, thats who. Everyone has to judge whether their assistance is going to do any good, since nobody has unlimited resources.
You have to decide the risk, freeing a trapped animal might lead to injury or death. Picking up a pedestrian could do the same. (Personally I won't pick up women anymore.)
Investing time or money is less risky, but there again, most people would hope it wasn't wasted. You might not see a positive result but you(I) definitely don't want to see a negative.

You're right. My bad... I was looking at it via a different angle. Sad thing is I forgot what that angle was.....

02-24-2005, 11:29 PM	#18
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	well, love is pain and pain is love. who can cause you pain if you do not hold some degree of love for them? really. if you care nothing about a persons regard for you how can their thoughts, words, actions cause you pain? and if you don't hold much stock in their thoughts, words, actions - do you hold love for them? for me? i consider my reason for existence to be my son. in mymind i am here to raise him to be a better man than i can ever hope to be. to paraphrase a certain Mr Pacino - i always new the right path, but i have invariably chosen the wrong one. i hope to raise my son to be a better man. a better human. beyond that i hope to brighten someone's day. may that be my assistant who has no living family, my son who has no other father, my parents who have no other son, the man on the corner who i bought lunch, my client who lost his wife to a sudden illness... someone. everyday. i don't believe in ka, karma, or luck. i do believe that there is a certain point where all credibility is shot. i believe there comes a point where "i" can no longer be the one to make a difference. i believe my actions have a consequence. i believe there comes a point where i can no longer be used in a truly meaningful way - so i must hope to impact the lives of those that have not passed that mile marker, whatever it may be. that is what i believe. __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

03-09-2005, 12:04 PM	#24
mrnoodle bent Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: under the weather Posts: 2,656	"Why?" isn't as deep a concept as we try to make it. In the end, we're only looking for shelter, food, and sex to answer our instinctive need to propogate the species. We have evolved an advanced problem-solving ability so that our basic biological needs are met almost without any effort. The resulting spare time isn't something our brains are used to, and there's lots of wasted traffic along our neural pathways. This is directionless, random electrical activity that we have come to interpret as "deep thought" but is actually the product of an organ that is still keyed for high activity and hasn't adapted to the lack of need for it. At the pinnacle of human evolution, having answered all our survival needs with permanent shelters and food sources, and the ability to self-reproduce, our brains will be the size of peanuts and we will no longer have limbs, since there's no need to go anywhere, anyway. We will be utterly self-contained, no longer producing digestive waste, impacting our environment only insofar as we require 3 square feet of space for our bodies to wobble on. As we die, the single offspring we each produce will occupy the space we used to occupy. If only Darwin could have lived long enough to see the realization of his dream.... what? __________________ Sìn a nall na cuaranan sin. -- Cha mhór is fheairrde thu iad, tha iad coltach ri cat air a dhathadh

03-09-2005, 12:10 PM	#26
mrnoodle bent Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: under the weather Posts: 2,656	: lol. what? isn't this the ideal scenario for people who think there is no soul, no god, only animal instinct and evolutionary advancement? __________________ Sìn a nall na cuaranan sin. -- Cha mhór is fheairrde thu iad, tha iad coltach ri cat air a dhathadh

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02-23-2005, 09:39 AM	#16
russotto Professor Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 1,788	I apparently exist to pick on vegans and furriners.

02-25-2005, 10:10 AM	#19
Kitsune still eats dirt Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 3,031	Here's why. (good read)

03-08-2005, 05:11 PM	#20
finding_nirvana Sibling of the Commonweal Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 16	I like this thread, such an interrogatory thread for such suicidal people, I agree with some of the others I've read, we are here just for the sake of breeding and keeping the species going, the delicate balance depends on just that, balance, and while we're here, we can make things good before we go. I hope to see more posts coming from this thread, good ones "You are an odd little boy, but I suppose... as our mothers have always told us, atleast my mother told me 'always try new things'."

03-09-2005, 11:02 AM	#23
finding_nirvana Sibling of the Commonweal Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 16	I'm not sure, I guess, if we stop breeding, the race will slowly diminish.

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