Saddam captured

[xoxoxoBruce]

That maybe true, but those that did would pay a heavy price. Doesn't matter how many there were, "Military Justice" would roll on. A dishonorable or even general discharge haunts you forever and that's after jail time.

[OnyxCougar]

Originally posted by Radar
And I'll tell anyone in any armed service who invaded Iraq that they're a traitor right to their face.

I venture to say you would not be concious long after saying that to 5 Marines.

It IS analagous to calling Vietnam Vets "murderers" and "baby-killers".

If I recall correctly, you're a public official (or were running as one) in San Bernardino County, California. Being in the Navy, had you refused a direct order to report, you would have been found guilty of disobeying orders, and jailed, and probably dishonorably discharged.

You may be able to say, "I was in the right!" but all voters will hear is, "DISHONORABLE DISCHARGE: DISOBEYING A DIRECT ORDER FROM A SUPERIOR OFFICER".

To make the changes you propose will require a revolution, and unfortunetly for revolutionists, the military protects from all enemies, foreign and domestic, as you've pointed out. It's not going to get far. Most Americans are too dumb and/or too lazy and/or too brainwashed and/or too frightened to comprehend AND act on what you're talking about.

Your ideas are great in a perfect paper world. We don't live in that world.

[Saddam Hussein]

Just few questions here;

1) Does anyone have any idea where the fuck I am? and

2) Will someone smuggle me in a fruitcake with a saw or a handgun inside, just for old times' sake?

Much like the Grinch, I feel my heart growing on this holiest of Christian holidays. Until and unless I escape, that is. Then I'll be the same ol' Saddam I used to be.


Clean Shaven and Showered,

Saddam

[Radar]

venture to say you would not be concious long after saying that to 5 Marines.

Marines are pussies. I'll tell that to any 5, 10, or 20 of them.

Being in the Navy, had you refused a direct order to report, you would have been found guilty of disobeying orders, and jailed, and probably dishonorably discharged.

Those in the military are under no obligation to follow unconstitutional orders. In fact they are not fulfilling their duty if they do follow those orders. I would win in court and would not get the dishonorable discharge.

To make the changes you propose will require a revolution, and unfortunetly for revolutionists, the military protects from all enemies, foreign and domestic, as you've pointed out.

Wrong, I've pointed out that their job is to protect us from enemies foreign and they are failing in that duty. They are endangering America rather than defending it, and they are following the orders of domestic enemies rather than protecting us from them.

Your ideas are great in a perfect paper world. We don't live in that world.

My ideas are perfect in the real world that we actually live in right now.

[elSicomoro]

Originally posted by Radar
Marines are pussies.

And this is based on...?

[Radar]

The hundreds I've known in the Navy. And they're not the brightest bulbs on the x-mas tree either.

[daniwong]

Originally posted by Radar
The hundreds I've known in the Navy. And they're not the brightest bulbs on the x-mas tree either.

No one ever said they had to be bright to kick your ass.

[elSicomoro]

"They talk a mean fight, but fight like hoes..."

[Radar]

No one ever said they had to be bright to kick your ass.

They'll have to be smarter, faster, and stronger, which isn't likely. I'll put my money on the smarter, and better experienced fighter over one who may be younger or bigger. Size has never been an obstacle for me. Ass kicking doesn't discriminate based on size.

[russotto]

I'd put my money on a randomly selected Marine.

(Hell, I'd put my money on a randomly-selected Cellar member)

[wolf]

Oooh ooh!!! Pick me randomly, pick me!!!

[xoxoxoBruce]

Now, now, children. Public brawling never solved anything that stealth in the night couldn't solve.