Anger Over Mohammed Cartoon - Page 19

piercehawkeye45 · 07-10-2007, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Really? When did the Christian's rise up, riot, and kill people in the last 20 years because the NY Times ran a cartoon of Jesus in the paper? How about a Jew joke? When did they rise up and chop off someones head because someone made fun of their God? Hmmmmmm....

One, the actions of a few DO NOT represents the views of the majority. Two, I think earlier on this thread they showed that it was only around 1,000 people in the entire world that protested against the cartoons.

Anyways, you can't compare modern Islam to modern Christianity because Christianity has become liberalized. To compare the two you would have to ask what would 13-16th century Christians do? Those are people that attacked Jerusalem just because they felt like they owned it, tried to kill off an entire continent, and the paranoia with the Salem witch trials. The closest you can get is to compare them to the Christians that bomb abortion clinics and protest at soldier’s funerals. Conservative religions never have a good reputation when it comes to violence and you can not single Islam out as violent since both Christianity and Judaism have been very violent in the past.

07-10-2007, 05:48 PM

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what would 13-16th century Christians do?

Off topic.

Clodfobble · 07-10-2007, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

you can not single Islam out as violent since both Christianity and Judaism have been very violent in the past.

Exactly--just like I can own slaves, and you can't criticize me for it because America used to have legal slavery in the past.

xoxoxoBruce · 07-10-2007, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

One, the actions of a few DO NOT represents the views of the majority. Two, I think earlier on this thread they showed that it was only around 1,000 people in the entire world that protested against the cartoons.

There was over a thousand in London alone.

piercehawkeye45 · 07-10-2007, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble

Exactly--just like I can own slaves, and you can't criticize me for it because America used to have legal slavery in the past.

I criticize them, I think in both scenarios they are wrong but I am not going to criticize their whole religion or country as naturally violent because of it. If Islam is liberalized than it will be no more violent or peaceful than Christianity just like if your country gets rid of slavery, it will be no more ethically different from our perspective.

Anyways, the Muslims that are violent are a minority in the religion and for the regions that violence is widespread, it is most likely religion.

Muslima · 07-10-2007, 10:06 PM

TheMercenary ,,
what would be your reaction towards who make a joke of your father?!! (we can call it freedom) I think you won't leave him until teaching him a lesson,,
our prophet is more than a father.. if u accept it on your father,, i think we will too!!!

TheMercenary · 07-10-2007, 10:09 PM

"Thousands of angry Muslims have taken to the streets in Arab capitals, in other Muslim countries and in Europe. "

http://www.voanews.com/english/archi...TOKEN=92160901

"On Friday 500 demonstrators marched from Regent's Park Mosque to the Danish embassy in Knightsbridge to protest at the publication of "blasphemous" cartoons in a Danish newspaper, and subsequently in other countries and on the BBC."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...05/nflag05.xml

"At the root of the problem a dozen of ironic cartoon strips on Mohammad, published in September by Jyllands-Posten. One for example, depicts the prophet wearing a turban form bomb, another shows him telling smoking kamikazes on their arrival among the clouds that "there are no virgins left", an ironic take on the prize that await martyrs in heaven.

Of course in the Islamic world no one has actually seen these cartoons, but accusations launched against the daily by the media and politicians have catalyzed a growing reaction, which has spread to include Norway, given that an Oslo daily has labelled the strip as "blasphemous"."

http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=5256&size=

TheMercenary · 07-10-2007, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Muslima

TheMercenary ,,
what would be your reaction towards who make a joke of your father?!! (we can call it freedom) I think you won't leave him until teaching him a lesson,,
our prophet is more than a father.. if u accept it on your father,, i think we will too!!!

Well, I don't think I would insite riots, burn down buildings, threaten the cartoonist with death, or cause general mayhem... but that's just me.

TheMercenary · 07-10-2007, 10:17 PM

Nor would I do any of this:

"Beirut (AsiaNews) – Saudi Arabia has recalled its ambassador in Copenhagen, Libya has close its diplomatic offices, in Iraq people blame them for recent bomb attacks against churches there, in Gaza demonstrations were held in front of EU offices, with shots fired in the air; the strong backlash from the Islamic world to a series of cartoons depicting Mohammad, published in a Danish newspaper, unimaginable to most western minds. Burnt flags, political condemnation, and appeals for a boycott are involving even traditionally moderate Islamic nations, like Jordan, the United Arab Emirates and Kuwait. "

http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=5256&size=

Muslima · 07-10-2007, 10:18 PM

Sure you won't because he is just your father not a father of millions, who represent them.

Happy Monkey · 07-10-2007, 10:19 PM

What difference does that make?

TheMercenary · 07-10-2007, 10:36 PM

Nor would I do any of this as a peace loving {insert fav religion name here}:

Indian Muslim group calls for beheading of writer

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/015692.php

"At a convention on the subject of "Pluralism in Islam" which took place in late August, 2004 at the Egyptian Journalists' Union in Cairo, Sheikh Dr. Yousef Al-Qaradhawi, a leader of the Muslim Brotherhood movement and one of the most important religious authorities in Islamist circles, issued a religious legal opinion permitting the abduction and killing of American civilians in Iraq in order to pressure the American army to evacuate its forces."

http://memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Pa...=sd&ID=SP79404

"Unlike some other people I do remember that although Salman Rushdie himself was not killed because of the fatwa against him by the despicable Khomeini, several translators of his book "Satanic Verses" were attacked and the Japanese translator of the book was killed.
Until recently I did not know the exact date he was slaughtered or even his name.

He was murdered on July "

http://www.frontpagemagazine.com/Art...e.asp?ID=22940

There really are to many examples to continue...

Muslima · 07-10-2007, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Well, I don't think I would insite riots, burn down buildings, threaten the cartoonist with death, or cause general mayhem... but that's just me.

what makes you sure that muslims did that? why don't you think that special sources who want that to destroy Islam,, or why don't you think that the same special sources bribe cartoonist, to let people forget the trespassing.
actually, those people don't belong to Islam they are muslims by name only & we don't consider them muslims.
my question now, do you all know your religion very well, and do you all obey what god asked you to?!!, do thugs & criminals represent thier religions?? if it was,, i think your country too full of them & i can judge your religion through them!!

Urbane Guerrilla · 07-11-2007, 12:02 AM

We tell jokes about Jesus. They are regarded as jokes in rather poor taste, but not poor enough that we can't tell them.

[Perhaps the pleasantest of these jokes is the one where Jesus is defending the woman taken in adultery, saying, "Let him who is without (this) sin throw the first stone."

A stone flies out of the crowd. Jesus looks to see who threw it and cries out, "Mo-om!!"]

Can you make that free with Muhammed, On Whom Be Peace (and certain of his followers should be following that example and not that of The Old Man of the Mountain), without getting sentenced to stoning?

Happy Monkey · 07-11-2007, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Muslima

what makes you sure that muslims did that?

You're the one who said:

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what would be your reaction towards who make a joke of your father?!! (we can call it freedom) I think you won't leave him until teaching him a lesson,,

It sounds like you were assuming it was Muslims trying to teach some sort of lesson.

07-10-2007, 10:09 PM	#277
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	"Thousands of angry Muslims have taken to the streets in Arab capitals, in other Muslim countries and in Europe. " http://www.voanews.com/english/archi...TOKEN=92160901 "On Friday 500 demonstrators marched from Regent's Park Mosque to the Danish embassy in Knightsbridge to protest at the publication of "blasphemous" cartoons in a Danish newspaper, and subsequently in other countries and on the BBC." http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...05/nflag05.xml "At the root of the problem a dozen of ironic cartoon strips on Mohammad, published in September by Jyllands-Posten. One for example, depicts the prophet wearing a turban form bomb, another shows him telling smoking kamikazes on their arrival among the clouds that "there are no virgins left", an ironic take on the prize that await martyrs in heaven. Of course in the Islamic world no one has actually seen these cartoons, but accusations launched against the daily by the media and politicians have catalyzed a growing reaction, which has spread to include Norway, given that an Oslo daily has labelled the strip as "blasphemous"." http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=5256&size= __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

07-10-2007, 10:17 PM	#279
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	Nor would I do any of this: "Beirut (AsiaNews) – Saudi Arabia has recalled its ambassador in Copenhagen, Libya has close its diplomatic offices, in Iraq people blame them for recent bomb attacks against churches there, in Gaza demonstrations were held in front of EU offices, with shots fired in the air; the strong backlash from the Islamic world to a series of cartoons depicting Mohammad, published in a Danish newspaper, unimaginable to most western minds. Burnt flags, political condemnation, and appeals for a boycott are involving even traditionally moderate Islamic nations, like Jordan, the United Arab Emirates and Kuwait. " http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=5256&size= __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

07-10-2007, 10:19 PM	#281
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07-10-2007, 10:36 PM	#282
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	Nor would I do any of this as a peace loving {insert fav religion name here}: Indian Muslim group calls for beheading of writer http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/015692.php "At a convention on the subject of "Pluralism in Islam" which took place in late August, 2004 at the Egyptian Journalists' Union in Cairo, Sheikh Dr. Yousef Al-Qaradhawi, a leader of the Muslim Brotherhood movement and one of the most important religious authorities in Islamist circles, issued a religious legal opinion permitting the abduction and killing of American civilians in Iraq in order to pressure the American army to evacuate its forces." http://memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Pa...=sd&ID=SP79404 "Unlike some other people I do remember that although Salman Rushdie himself was not killed because of the fatwa against him by the despicable Khomeini, several translators of his book "Satanic Verses" were attacked and the Japanese translator of the book was killed. Until recently I did not know the exact date he was slaughtered or even his name. He was murdered on July " http://www.frontpagemagazine.com/Art...e.asp?ID=22940 There really are to many examples to continue... __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

07-11-2007, 12:02 AM	#284
Urbane Guerrilla Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,674	We tell jokes about Jesus. They are regarded as jokes in rather poor taste, but not poor enough that we can't tell them. [Perhaps the pleasantest of these jokes is the one where Jesus is defending the woman taken in adultery, saying, "Let him who is without (this) sin throw the first stone." A stone flies out of the crowd. Jesus looks to see who threw it and cries out, "Mo-om!!"] Can you make that free with Muhammed, On Whom Be Peace (and certain of his followers should be following that example and not that of The Old Man of the Mountain), without getting sentenced to stoning? __________________ Wanna stop school shootings? End Gun-Free Zones, of course.

07-10-2007, 10:06 PM	#276
Muslima who cares? if you don't know me don't judge me! Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 75	TheMercenary ,, what would be your reaction towards who make a joke of your father?!! (we can call it freedom) I think you won't leave him until teaching him a lesson,, our prophet is more than a father.. if u accept it on your father,, i think we will too!!!

07-10-2007, 10:18 PM	#280
Muslima who cares? if you don't know me don't judge me! Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 75	Sure you won't because he is just your father not a father of millions, who represent them.

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